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The Rutles

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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 12.10.05 19:54:12   
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IGNFF: What was the final running time?

IDLE: I cut it down to 60. There's a stack of footage – if it ever becomes a DVD, there's like 20 minutes of interviews with everybody about The Rutles… fascinating stuff. I mean, Graham Nash was just amazing – he's really funny. A lot of it is quite interesting, as people reveal little anecdotes about their real counterparts…

IGNFF: Similar to Mick Jagger's revelations during the first program?

IDLE: Yes! Absolutely. Totally similar. People can tell the truth much more freely when their apparently lying.

IGNFF: Were there any anecdotes that surprised you?

IDLE: Yeah, quite a few, but there's lots and lots of material. It will be a smashing DVD.

IGNFF: I seem to remember a few years back when the Rutles Archeology CD was released, that there were rumors of a rift between you and Neil Innes over it. Was there a conflict?

IDLE: No, not at all. I just didn't get the gag. I thought he'd rather taken it all a bit too seriously and sort of missed the joke, which was, you know – there was no documentary, it was just a Rutles record. But the songs are rather lovely, and I lifted them happily and put it on Rutle footage, you know what I mean? That's rather good.

IGNFF: It was definitely a rumor that had gone around…

IDLE: Well, I thought he took it all a bit too seriously. I mean, we really don't care about The Rutles as old and bald people – they only exist as a parody in a parody world.

IGNFF: So it was just a matter of…

IDLE: There wasn't any context for it, I thought.

IGNFF: Besides just for the music itself…

IDLE: It's fabulous. There's some wonderful songs on it, and I have no problem with that. I mean, he asked me to be on it, and I said, "Look, I don't think I can do this right now."

IGNFF: Do you regret that decision?

IDLE: Not in the slightest. It was very useful when I came to do my documentary.

IGNFF: As far as…

IDLE: Having some new and fresh original Rutle songs.

IGNFF: Are there any new songs beyond the ones released on the Archeology disc?

IDLE: No… no no no, because I had a whole album to pick from, you know, little tunes and melodies. Being as it's a great, tight 60 minutes, it doesn't have a lot of music. It just washes through the songs, and references them. Like a Beatle documentary does.

IGNFF: I think the documentary a few years back was The Beatles Revolution… So you used the music, like in that, as a way to contextualize and bookend the interviews…

IDLE: Yes, exactly.

IGNFF: The next big project – recent project – to discuss is The Rutland Isles…

IDLE: Right…

IGNFF: Which, as you mention on the website, has been in development for quite awhile…

IDLE: It's what I wanted to turn my attention to next, but I could never find anybody interested enough. It's the same concept that was used for The Rutles, except these are islands now. They're islands in the West Pole. This is a parody of documentaries of the sort of travel of nature… It's a parody of all the sort of cable networks… the way we look at the rest of the world through British men in brown shorts.

IGNFF: I've listened to the album a couple times now and enjoyed it greatly…

IDLE: Oh, thanks!

IGNFF: And, as you say, it's a very skewed sort of Travel Channel documentary…

IDLE: He's an award-seeking journalist, so it's seen through the ego of these people who come and talk to us on television…

IGNFF: Bravely wading his way through the new world…

IDLE: Hopefully selling the Travel Channel the other 468,000 documentaries.

IGNFF: That's the number of islands in the Rutland Isle chain, right?

IDLE: 468,000 of them.

IGNFF: So you have a few more segments to get to…

IDLE: Yeah, exactly. On this CD, because of the time thing on a comedy CD – there's like 55, 60 minutes – so I thought, "I'll do two islands on this voyage." There are lots of other ones which are referred to in this CD, and I even recorded a lot of them, too.

IGNFF: There's definitely a touch of Attenborough in Nigel Spasm…

IDLE: No question. That's, of course, where it started, you know, with David Attenborough. In the early 80's, he was *the man* for doing documentaries. Now there are hundreds of them, all based on the original archetype.

IGNFF: Boldly following in the footsteps of previous short-pantsed Brits…

IDLE: Yes…

IGNFF: What led to the decision on the two islands you chose to cover?

IDLE: I think those were the ones where I had the best material… so it was just a material thing. They were the most developed islands. I didn't set out just to make two – I recorded a lot of stuff, because it's easy to record stuff on audio, and then we wrote a lot of songs. So there's a slew of outtakes – this is just a selection for this album.
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 12.10.05 19:54:27   
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IGNFF: It's interesting how prescient some of the selections are, given the current world climate…

IDLE: It is, isn't it?

IGNFF: Especially the song "We're Much Better Than You Are…

IDLE: Yes.

IGNFF: When was the album recorded?

IDLE: It was recorded around this time last year, probably from about now till the Summer, and then we did some more early in the Fall. It was mainly about reshaping, and trying to get the shape right.

IGNFF: Was the subtext of the song a conscious decision, or is it just easy to read subtext into a song like that?

IDLE: I think this is fairly general satire that has become very topical, because people started behaving like archetypes again. I think this is a major satire thing, and the satirical parts seem to speak to us more strongly. In another time, we may well think that the funny little animals were the most funny. But now these things pop out at us, as if, "Oh! That seems to be what's going on!"

IGNFF: How do you compare how audiences react to satire now to how audiences reacted to the material you did during Python in the late 60's/early 70's?

IDLE: Python was post-satire. I call it generalized lunacy. It deals with archetypes, which is why it can rerun all the time. It doesn't have any localized basis in time. Satire tends to respond to exigencies of the moment. What's interesting about this is that it's got a bit of both, so that the satire tends to apply to right now…

IGNFF: As you say, in a generalized fashion. Because in listening to it, you can apply many different meanings to what it's saying, besides just being funny on a base level…

IDLE: That's good.

IGNFF: And when are you going to launch your own reality series? Something like "Eric Idle's Have You No Shame?"…

IDLE: I've got an offer to do The Rutland Isles, but I'm not sure if it's a good enough offer yet.

IGNFF: Which network?

IDLE: They shall remain unnamed, lest they be ashamed by the paucity of their offer.

IGNFF: But this is the perfect venue to do just that…

IDLE: To insult them…

IGNFF: Shame them in print.

IDLE: No, I can't do that.

IGNFF: Is it something that is fully developed in your mind, as far as translating it to live action?

IDLE: I'm torn between doing a general full-length, like, DVD of the islands, or doing an episodic 25 minutes. You know, episodic with a different island each week… just a TV series. That's my dilemma at the moment. Part of me likes to wrap things up and go on to something different, but I haven't quite made up my mind yet.

IGNFF: I assume it's also a matter of not getting bogged down in something should the deal turn sour…

IDLE: Well, they never kind of offer you a series – they always offer you pilots. I hate being in that sort of mainstream of commerce.

IGNFF: Is it easier to pitch it in the US or the UK?

IDLE: In the US.

IGNFF: So essentially, one day we could have the mockumentary of The Travel Channel actually playing on The Travel Channel…

IDLE: It would be nice. I think that's an appropriate place.

IGNFF: It's amazing that no matter how many channels we have, they all still go after the same broad, watered-down audience. You'd think with 1,000 channels they'd at least try to play to a niche every once in awhile…

IDLE: Yeah, I guess so. That's because it's got commercials on it. That's the issue.

IGNFF: What other projects do you have lined up for the future? You've always struck me as the most prolific of the former Pythons…

IDLE: Really? I have a movie I want to direct, which is called Remains of the Piano – which is a piss-take on Merchant Ivory…

IGNFF: This is the Award-Seeking film?

IDLE: An Award-Seeking film, which is close to going. What else am I doing? I have a musical which is a secret, and we'll announce it soon. John Du Prez and I have written this musical.

IGNFF: Is it in the same vein as your past work, or is it a "straight" musical?

IDLE: It's a comedy. It's got some good stuff in it.

IGNFF: Will we be seeing more Rutland Isles CDs?

IDLE: I don't know. I really don't know. We're trying to reinvent the comedy CD. There's just no market for them… they've been sort of out of existence, so one needs to see if people actually buy these things – not just copy them and send them around to each other! That's why I'm offering the calendar on the website to encourage people to actually buy the thing.

IGNFF: We'll definitely be linking back to the website…

IDLE: Oh good! Because you can only get the calendar through the website.

IGNFF: Are there going to be more updates on the website as time goes by?

IDLE: I would hope so. A website can be very time-intensive, but I'd love to have one where people can contribute to it – like invent islands and make their own flags, and their own laws. I think that'd be kind of fun. Fill in some of the 468,000 islands. Find the ingenuitive people who can sit at home and write this stuff… invent the animals… I'd love to do that. I haven't quite had the time to take away to figure out how that would work.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/392/392962p1.html
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 12.10.05 19:54:42   
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: SkyElevator   Дата: 15.10.05 19:52:25   
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А вот интересно, их хоть раз на нашей с вами родине по ТВ показывали?
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Pigmalion   Дата: 15.10.05 21:54:10   
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Ага, чтобы песни переводили с выражением, как обычно :)))
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: SkyElevator   Дата: 16.10.05 12:48:38   
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Да, это было бы забавно. Только сейчас нашел время прочитать до конца интервью - очень понравилось история про Джорджа, играющего Ouch. Послушать бы.
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Primal Scream   Дата: 06.04.06 22:18:54   
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The Ruttles - симпатично!
Автор: Гуранин   Дата: 24.09.06 12:52:20   
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Недавно один мой знакомый презентовал мне флешку, на которой была записана группа The Ruttles - они исполняют забавные копии битловских песен, то есть, допустим, не оригинальную, скажем, Lucy in the sky with diamonds, а свою, с похожей мелодией, с тем же инструментальным составом, и т.д. Получил такое удовольствие! Казалось, если бы битлы сами это исполнили, не отличить было бы где ленноновские/мкккартниевские/харрисоновы песни, а где Ruttles. Кто-нибудь что-нибудь знает об этой группе? Поисковик ничего вразумительного не дал :(


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Re: The Ruttles - симпатично!
Автор: PyramydAir   Дата: 24.09.06 12:52:20   
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2Гуранин:

Поисковик ничего не дал потому что не The Ruttles, а The Rutles.Инфы об этой группе сколько угодно.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rutles


>Казалось, если бы битлы сами это исполнили, не
>отличить было бы где ленноновские/мкккартниевские/харрисоновы
>песни, а где Ruttles.

Эта группа была самой успешной в рок-пародии.Вероятно только Spinal Tap переплюнул ее.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_Tap


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Re: The Rutles
Автор: SkyElevator   Дата: 05.10.06 13:21:39   
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Только что узнал, что еще в 90-м году был выпущен альбом Rutles Highway Revisited с каверами на их песни. Слышал кто?
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Andrey   Дата: 05.10.06 14:39:38   
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2SkyElevator:2SkyElevator:
>Только что узнал, что еще в 90-м году был выпущен
>альбом Rutles Highway Revisited с каверами на
>их песни. Слышал кто?

Отличный диск!
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=321§ion=15
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: SkyElevator   Дата: 06.10.06 20:07:59   
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А выложить??? И лучше все-таки по песням в медиа-архив, а?
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Кирилл Егоров   Дата: 06.10.06 21:42:29   
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Да-да, очень хочется услышать!
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Green_N2   Дата: 26.12.06 19:59:28   
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Наконец то я послушал "Архиологию". Меня все не оставляет ощущение, что к
музыке и словам песен приложил руку Леннон. Он ведь еще жив тогда был. Уж
очень талантлевые пародии. А песни "Unfineshing words" и "Hey Mister", ну
просто Ленноновские. А что Ратлизы создали свое, оригенальное? Кто нибудь
подскажет. Интересно бы послушать их собственное творчество.
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Andrey   Дата: 27.12.06 11:21:24   
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2Green_N2:

>Наконец то я послушал "Архиологию". Меня все
>не оставляет ощущение, что к
>музыке и словам песен приложил руку Леннон. Он
>ведь еще жив тогда был.

Вообще-то диск вышел в 1996-м, и все песни для него были записаны тогда же.

>А что Ратлизы создали свое, оригенальное? Кто нибудь
>подскажет. Интересно бы послушать их собственное творчество.

Из "сольного" творчества могу порекомендовать группу Neil Innes - "Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band".
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Автор: Medicene Jar   Дата: 27.12.06 11:54:10   
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При чем Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band существовали задолго до появления Ратлз!

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Автор: Green_N2   Дата: 27.12.06 19:54:03   
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Andrey***
Спасибо! Ну я знал, что "Архиология" вышла в 1996г. Но
видео "The Rutles" вышло то в 79. В "Археологию" попали
многие песни не вошедшие в первый фильм. А то, что они
были записаны в 96, так это еще ничего не значит, созданы они то были в 78-79г. И вообще не совсем понятно, как этот
проект прошел мимо Леннона, ведь Битлз было его детище.
Харрисон, Джагер, Саймон участвывали в сьемках, а они
очень уважали Джона и без его ведома навряд ли согласились
бы на участие в проекте. Тем более, что там есть эпизоды
не очень лестные для Джона. Для меня этот проект загадка.
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Дед_Alex   Дата: 27.12.06 20:31:42   
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100 лет не входил в эту тему!100 лет не входил в эту тему!
DVD Другая обложка. Хотя ЭТОТ DVD приобретен за 10 дней ранее официального релиза...
Давно это было...
Д.
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Автор: Дед_Alex   Дата: 27.12.06 20:33:45   
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Задник  № 2Задник

№ 2
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Re: The Rutles
Автор: Primal Scream   Дата: 27.01.07 18:31:14   
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Archaeology [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]Archaeology [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]
Audio CD (February 22, 2007)
Label: EMI Gold

1. Major Happy's Up and Coming Once upon a Good Time Band
2. Rendezvous
3. Questionnaire
4. We've Arrived! (And to Prove It We're Here)
5. Lonely-Phobia
6. Unfinished Words
7. Hey Mister!
8. Easy Listening
9. Now She's Left You
10. Knicker Elastic King
11. I Love You
12. Eine Kleine Middle Klasse Musik
13. Joe Public
14. Shangri-La
15. Don't Know Why
16. Back in '64

2007 Remastered Edition of the Collection Originally Released in 1996 to Coincide with the Release at that Time of the Beatles "Anthology" Series. What Could Be More Appropos? Includes Four Extra Tracks that were Featured on the Original Japanese Version of this Album, B-sides and the Very New "Rut-a-lot" Track which is Previously Unreleased.
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