Black Sabbath

Давайте, ребятки, так держать! Истина рождается в споре.

Felix, ну а ты что по поводу Headless Cross можешь сказать?

Ошибка некоторых товарищей в том,что БС они отождествляют с именем Оззи,хотя главная фигура как раз не он.Слушайте гитару!Тогда на будете говорить про Радугу.

2 papan - you right!

Это разные вещи. Радуга мне лично гораздо ближе.

Раран ты видно давно БС не слушал, преслушай первый,параноид и сравни
их с Heaven and Hell, гитара то на нем Тони, а вот общее звучание,
настрой очень на Rainbow похож, нет того величия, тяжести, настроения,
как на первых альбомах.
Это не говорит о том, что они мне совсем не нравятся (нравятся так,
как Rainbow я тоже очень люблю), но самыми любимыми дисками БС остаются
для меня именно ранние альбомы.

Nostradamus***
Никто ведь не говорит,что звучание БС не изменилось.Но речь то о другом.Ведь даже Дио в Радуге и в БС поёт по-разному.Радуга на первых альбомах-продолжение традиций ДП,это крепкий хард-рок. Heaven & Hell и The Mob Rules- довольно разные по звучанию.На первом из них Дио ещё не отошёл от своей предыдущей работы,но старается измениться,саунд у группы в традициях харда (а хард-это и ДП,и Р,но не ранний БС),но пожостче.Ну а Моб уже возврат к хеви,даже к прогрессив-металу.Так что об каких-то аналогиях с Радугой(ДП) можно говорить только в отношении одного альбома.Ну и игра у Ричи и Тони-это всегда две большие разницы.

Раран я разделяю твое мнение относительно Heaven & Hell и The Mob Rules, просто некоторые товарищи назвали Heaven & Hell чуть ли не
лучшим диском у БС, а другой все их диски после 1983 года определил как
глем рок и это меня от души расмешило!!!!

Знаешь, Нострадамус, может, и не все, но песенка Headless Cross, хоть и неплоха, но коммерцией отдает изрядно. Я имею в виду мелодическую структуру композиции. И в отличии от ранних альбомов БС этот мне кажется не очень интересным.

To Alice Cooper
Во первых по одной "песенке" нельзя судить о всех дисках, во вторых
то, что она отдает коммерцией вовсе не озрачает, что это глем рок,
ну а в третьих я как раз и писал, что ранние диски значительно лучше передают атмосферу БС.

Господа, а какова будет ваша оценка последнего альбома БС о Оззи, Never Say P**? Лично мне нравится. Очень.

Felix: может, у тебя есть текст заглавной песни с этого альбома?

1978-Never Say Die


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Never Say Die [3:47]
Johnny Blade [6:27]
Junior's Eyes [6:41]
A Hard Road [6:03]
Shock Wave [5:13]
Air Dance [5:15]
Over To You [5:21]
Breakout [2:36]
Swinging the Chain [4:18]

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Все треки написаны Black Sabbath

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Tony Iommi - Лидер гитара
Geezer Butler - Бас гитара
Ozzy Osbourne - Вокал
Bill Ward - Барабаны
Don Airey - Клавишные
John Elstar - Гармоника
Продюссер Black Sabbath
Инженер Dave Harris
Записано в Sounds Interchange, Toronto Canada

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Never Say Die

People going nowhere, taken for a ride
Looking for the answers that they know inside
Searching for a reason, looking for a rhyme
Snow White's mirror said "partners in crime!"

Don't they ever have to worry?
Don't you ever wonder why?
It's a part of me that tells you
Oh, don't you ever, don't ever say die
Never, never, never say die again

Sunday's satisfaction, Monday's home and dry
Truth is on the doorstep, welcome in the lie
All dressed up in sorrow, got no place to go
Hold back, `till it's ready, taking it slow

Don't they ever have to worry?
Don't you ever wonder why?
It's a part of me that tells you
Oh, don't you ever, don't ever say die
Never, never, never say die again

Don't you ever say die
Don't you ever say die
Never say die

Panic, silver lining, writing's on the wall
Children get together, you can save us all
Future's on the corner, throwing us a die
Slow down, turn around, everything's fine

There's no need to have a reason
There's no need to wonder why
It's a part of me that tells you
Oh, don't you ever, don't ever say die
Never, never, never say die again


Johnny Blade

Tortured and twisted, he walks the streets alone
People avoid him, they know the street's his own
Cold blade of silver, his eyes they burn so wild
Mean as a tiger, society's own child

Go the tiger, burn in hate
You know you have to, Johnny Blade
He's the meanest guy around his town
One look and he will cut you down
Johnny Blade, Johnny Blade

Life has no meaning, and Death's his only friend
Will fate surprise him, where will he meet his end?
He feels so bitter, yes he's so full of hate
To die in the gutter, I guess that's Johnny's fate

Rivals all across the land
He kills them with his knife in hand
He's the meanest guy around his town
One look and he will cut you down
Johnny Blade, Johnny Blade
Johnny Blade, Johnny Blade

Well you know that Johnny's a spider
And his web is the city at night
He's a victim of modern frustration
That's the reason he's so ready to fight

He's the one that should be afraid
What will happen to you, Johnny Blade?

Oh he knows his future's decided
And he ain't gonna change it, no way
He was born to die in the gutter
He'll keep fighting `till the end of his days

Been alone all through his life
His only friend is a switchblade knife
He's the one who should be afraid
What will happen to you, Johnny Blade?

You fool the people
Who's fooling who?
It's time to listen
Who's fool are you?


Junior's Eyes

Junior's eyes looked up to the skies in tears
He prayed that his maker, the giver and taker, would `pear
Junior sighed, as his hands reached out to the sky
Junior cried, the day that his best friend died
Yeah!

They're coming home again tomorrow
I'm sorry it won't be for long
With all the pain I've watched you live within
I'll try my hardest not to cry
When it is time to say goodbye

Junior's eyes, they couldn't disguise the pain
His father was leaving, and Junior's grieving again
Innocent eyes watched the man who had gave everything
Junior's sorrow, who knew what tomorrow would bring?
Yeah!

They're coming home again tomorrow
I'm sorry it won't be for long
With all the pain I've watched you live within
I'll try my hardest not to cry
When it is time to say goodbye

Junior's eyes looked into the skies once more
Now he knew well, this life was hell for sure
He desperately tried, his fingertips stretched to the stars, yeah
Reaching for reason, along with the time and the stars
Yeah!

They're coming home again tomorrow
I'm sorry it won't be for long
With all the pain I've watched you live within
I'll try my hardest not to cry
When it is time to say goodbye

Hard Road

Old men crying, young men dying
World still turns as Father Time looks on
On and on
Children playing, dreamers praying
Laughter turns to tear as love has gone
Has it gone?

Oh, it's a hard road
Oh, it's a hard road

Whirlwind churning, lovers learning
On this path of life we can't back down
Is it wrong?
Widows weeping, babies sleeping
Life becomes the singer and the song
Sing along

Oh, it's a hard road
Carry your own load

Why make the hard road?
Why can't we be friends?
No need to hurry
We'll meet in the end

Why make the hard road?
Why can't we be friends?
No need to worry
Let's sing it again

Brother's sharing, mother's caring
Nightime falling victim to the dawn
Shadows small
Days are crawling, time is calling
To the Earth that not that life has gone
Love line drawn

Oh, it's a hard road
Carry your own load
Oh, it's a hard road
Oh, it's a hard road...

We're living in sorrow, we're living the best
And look to the future, `cause life goes together now
We're living in sorrow, we're living the best
And look to the future, `cause life goes together now
We're living in sorrow, we're living the best
And look to the future, `cause life goes together now...


Shock Wave

There's no reason for you to run
You can't escape the fate of the chosen one
Black moon rising, in a blood red sky
This time you realise that you're gonna die

Drinking your blood brew is your answer
That's what you plan to do
No dreaming, time you cheat this master
You're on your own going through

Wind of mist has taken over your mind
And you think you're on your own
Don't believe you are the only one here
Look around, you're not alone

Feel the forces from another world
Ghostly shadows fill your mind
Evil power hanging over you
As you freeze, you're like a child
Look behind you!

Somebody's calling
Someone is near
Feel yourself falling
Falling with fear
You tell yourself you're dreaming
You realise you're screaming
You know that this shouldn't happen to you
You tell yourself that it's scary too
But there is nothing you can do, oh!

Ghostly shadows from the other world
Evil forces in your mind
Trapped between the worlds of life and death
Frozen in the realms of time
Look behind you!

You feel yourself falling, you're at the end of the line
Your body is crawling, but your senses are blind
Cold, cold feelings are running through your brains
Ice cold fingers, running through your veins


Air Dance

She sits in silence, in her midnight world
Her faded pictures, of her dancing girls
Her, distant dreamer, on the seas of time
Her happy memories, dancing through her mind

In days of romance
She was the queen of dance
She'd dance the night away

And as the seasons turn the days to years
She holds her pictures, hears the silent cheers
The days grow lonely for the dancing queen
And now she dances only in her dreams

In days of romance
She was the queen of dance
She'd dance the night away, away, away, away


Over to You

Born in the window
Cold blooded spoof
Raised in the prison
You called the school
Taught young in legends
Told what to do
I handed my childhood
Over to you

Travelling endlessly, I'm searching for mind
I'm almost afraid of what I will find
Wandering aimlessly, oh what can I do?
I handed my future over to you, to you

Over to you
Future looks blue
What can I do?

Watching for freedom
Fighting our wars
Feeding our children
Keeping your laws
Someday you'll suffer
And what I'll do
I'll hand all your promises
Over to you

Standing inside myself, I'm losing control
You made me believe in the stories you told
Waiting impatiently, what else can I do?
I handed my future over to you, to you

Over to you
Future looks blue
What can I do?

Tears filled of sadness
Stealing myself
Which burning secrets?
What to they tell?
Mad politicians
Can tell it true
I handed my children
Over to you

All over, over to you
All over, over to you
All over, over to you...

Breakout

Instrumental.


Swinging the Chain

It's against my uniform
To be a civil judge
All the songs are history now
`Bout rock stars and their grudge
Let us cast our minds back
To thirty years or more
You took up all the vandals
Will Hitler beat `em all?

And we're sad and sorry
Really sorry that it happened that way
Yes we're sad and sorry
But why'd you have to treat us that way?

Compare ourselves with others
And cover them in sin
Oh, God what a terrible
A terrible state we're in
There must be some way out of here
A comprimise that's right
If we cannot work it out
We're gonna have to fight

Yes we're sad and sorry
Really sorry that it happened that way
Yes we're sad and sorry
We cannot go on in those days

I'm talking about my brothers
Yeah, I'm talking `bout sisters as well
I wish you good luck
Good luck!

Oh, but the world's still on fire
Chain the hope you take on, liar
This fire
We're on fire, we're on fire, yeah...


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Happy New Year!

Проггеры начали дискуссию по Black Sabbath:
http://forum.progrock.ru/viewtopic.php?t=436

Давайте продолжим ее тут.

"Planet Caravan" - прекрасная психоделическая вещь, правда, для Саббат несколько нестандартная. С другой стороны, они вроде бы начинали с психоделического блюза...
А с сольным творчеством Оззи я начала знакомиться после того, как услышала "See You On The Other Side" с альбома "Ozzmosis". Заинтересовал также один из бонус-трэков к этому альбому - "Pictures of Matchstick men", записанный при участии "гОтов" Type'o'Negative, хотя я, в общем, не люблю готик-рок.

Вообще, неплохо было бы и зальники группы упомянуть. У меня например есть Live At Last, правда, на стас-наминовском виниле, отсюда качество довольно паршивое... Но зато подборка... Интересно, есть ли он на видео? А, Феликс?

На видео нет, Live At Last был переиздан под названием Past Lives на 2-х CD в конце 2002 года.
Disc1:
1. Tomorrow's Dream
2. Sweet Leaf
3. Killing Yourself
4. Cornucopia
5. Snowblind
6. Children of the Grave
7. War Pigs
8. Wicked World
9. Paranoid
Disc 2:
10. Hand of Doom
11. Hole in the Sky
12. Symptom of the Universe
13. Megalomania
14. Iron Man
15. Black Sabbath
16. NIB
17. Behind the Wall
18. Fairies Wear Boots


Треки 1-9 уже были выпущены в живом варианте на альбоме «Live at Last». Треки 10-18 взяты из разных туров Сэббетов начиная с 1970 и заканчивая 1978.

В альбом также входят некоторые фото, которые публикуются впервые, некоторые 1969 года, некоторые были сняты позже. Также туда войдет постер и табы. А так же много интересной инфы.

4. Вилео
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* NEVER SAY DIE - LIVE IN CONCERT *
Hammersmith Odeon, Лондон, Англия, 19/6/1978

SYMPTOM OF THE UNIVERSE
WAR PIGS
SNOWBLIND
NEVER SAY DIE
BLACK SABBATH
DIRTY WOMAN
ROCK AND ROLL DOCTOR
ELETRIC FUNERAL
CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE
PARANOID

OZZY OSBOURNE (вокал), GEEZER BUTLER (бас),
TONY IOMMY (гитара), BILL WARD (барабаны)

* THE BLACK SABBATH STORY PART I * 1970-1978 *
compilation

N.I.B.
[Снято на концерте в Париже, 1970]
PARANOID
[раритетная черно-белая запись, Бельгия 1970]
WAR PIGS
[Снято на концерте в Париже, 1970]
CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE
[Калифорния, 1974]
SNOWBLIND
[The Hammersmith Odeon, Лондон, 1978]
SABBATH BLOODY SABBATH
[уникальная цветная сьемка Conceptual Video, 1973]
SYMPTOM OF THE UNIVERSE
[The Hammersmith Odeon, Лондон, 1978]
IT'S ALRIGHT
[раритетная запись, снята в 1976, Bill Ward вокал ]
ROCK AND ROLL DOCTOR
[снято в 1976]
NEVER SAY DIE
[Top of the Pops ... 1978]

OZZY OSBOURNE (вокал), GEEZER BUTLER (бас),
TONY IOMMY (гитара), BILL WARD (барабаны)

Ето видео - ретроспективный показ десяти классических песен оригинального состава,
начиная с песен ('N.I.B.', 'Paranoid') тогда никому неизвестной команды заканчивая последней песней Sabbath "Осборновского" периода (Never Say Die).

* THE BLACK SABBATH STORY PART II * 1978-1992 *
compilation

HARD ROAD
[The Hammersmith Odeon, Лондон, 1978]
DIE YOUNG
[Rainbow Theatre, Лондон, 1980]
NEON KNIGHTS
[Rainbow Theatre, Лондон, 1980]
TRASHED
[Montreal Forum, Канада, 1983]
ZERO THE HERO
[Montreal Forum, Канада, 1983]
NO STRANGER TO LOVE
[Los Angeles, США, 1986]
THE SHINING
[Лондон, 1987]
HEADLESS CROSS
[Battle Abbey, Англия, 1989]
FEELS GOOD TO ME
[Lonson & Los Angeles, 1990]
TV CRIMES
[Rockfield Studios, Англия , 1992]
COMPUTER GOD
[Rockfield Studios, Англия, 1992]
I (зальная запись)
[Hammersmith Odeon, Лондон, 1992]

разные вокалисты, басисты и барабанщики,
GEOFF NICHOLLS (коавиши), TONY IOMMI (гитара )

TONY IOMMY - THE GUITAR THAT DRIVES BLACK SABBATH
compilation & interview

BLACK SABBATH
PARANOID
HEADLESS CROSS (video)
ORCHID
FEELS GOOD TO ME (video)
EMBRYO
SMOKE ON THE WATER (с участием Ian Gillan)
LAGUNA SUNRISE

Интервью Tony Iommi и ранее не выпущенное видео к "Headless Cross" and "Feels Good
To Me".

* BLACK AND BLUE - LIVE IN CONCERT *
Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale NY, США 15 октября 1980
(50 % Black Sabbath, 50 % Blue Oyster Cult)

WAR PIGS
NEON KNIGHTS
N.I.B.
IRON MAN
PARANOID
HEAVEN AND HELL
DIE YOUNG

RONNIE JAMES DIO (вокал), GEEZER BUTLER (бас),
TONY IOMMY (гитара), VINNY APPICE (барабаны), GEOFF NICHOLLS (клавиши)



BLACK SABBATH LIVE IN PARIS, 20/12/1970
(есть только на бутлегах)

N.I.B.
BEHIND THE WALL OF SLEEP
WAR PIGS
BACKSTAGE VIEWS
PARANOID
HAND OF DOOM
(включает часть песни RAT SALAD)
IRON MAN
BLACK SABBATH

OZZY OSBOURNE (вокал), GEEZER BUTLER (бас),
TONY IOMMY (гитары), BILL WARD (барабаны)

Black Sabbath Promo Clips, официально не выпускались :

- BLACK SABBATH (1970)
- TRASHED (1983, полная версия)
- ZERO THE HERO (1983, полная версия)
- TV CRIMES (1992)
- THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE (1994)
- IRON MAN (Beat Club, 1970)
- PARANOID (Beat Club, 1970)
- BLACK SABBATH (Beat Club, 1970)
- BLUE SUEDE SHOES (Beat Club, 1970)

Феликс, молодец!