Ну что, дождались! 9 сентября вышел ремастированный каталог The Beatles!

2mauser:

>Интересно,какое качество и какая цена?Да,купить
>новый бокс было бы очень заманчиво.Если бы и заказы принимались
На офиц сайте вроде уж как с месяц предзаказ, и цена нарисована, около 200£ за бокс

2stoned:

Спасибо за ответ и за ссылки на потрясающие клипы из Rock Band.
Там действительно другие миксы и заметно улучшенный звук.

А сами клипы то как здорово поставлены. Сплошной позитив.

Beatles engineer Allan Rouse gives a preview of the Beatles remastered CDs

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Pictured, from left in Abbey Road Studio 2: Guy Massey, Simon Gibson, Sean Magee, Sam Okell, Steve Rooke, Paul Hicks and Allan Rouse. (Photo © Richard Skidmore 2009)

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(Allan Rouse joined EMI in 1971 as an assistant engineer in the demo studio at the Manchester Square head office, frequently working with Norman (Hurricane) Smith, The Beatles’ first recording engineer. In 1991, he copied all of Beatles' master tapes (mono, stereo, 4-track and 8-track) to digital tape as a safety backup. He spent four years after that working with Sir George Martin as assistant and project coordinator on the TV documentary "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" and the CDs "Live at the BBC" and "The Beatles Anthol­ogy.' It was Rouse, along with Abbey Road senior engineer Guy Massey and and assistant Guy Massey, who produced the 5.1 surround and stereo mixes for the reissue of "Yellow Submarine" in 1991. He later helped initiate what led to the remixing of several John Lennon albums and the new sound mixes for the film "Gimme Some Truth" and the "Lennon Legend" DVD. Rouse has worked exclusively on Beatles projects in recent years, including "The First U.S. Visit" and the "Help" DVDs, and the albums "Let It Be…Naked" and "Love" along with George Harrison’s "The Concert for Bangladesh" DVD and album.)

Q: When was the re-masters project first discussed? When did the work actually begin? When did it (or will it) end?

Allan Rouse: As far as Abbey Road’s involvement, the project began at the beginning of 2005 and ended with Apple Corps Ltd and EMI’s approval at the beginning of this year.

Q: Where was the work done?

Allan Rouse: All of the work was done within Abbey Road Studios.

Q: From the comments from those who have been to the listening sessions so far, it appears that calling this "Yellow Submarine Songtrack 2009" is inaccurate. What can fans expect from the new CDs?

Allan Rouse: The "Yellow Submarine Song Songtrack" was a ‘remix’ which required going back to the original multi-track tapes and recreating a new stereo (and 5.1 surround for the film soundtrack). In the same way as the “Anthology” and “Help!” DVDs were created, along with “Let It Be… Naked” and “LOVE.” The re-masters are made from the original Sixties mono and stereo master tapes, and because of this, do not allow for the changes that can be made when mixing. Therefore, the improvements that occur with the re-masters are: vastly improved digital technology (since their first release on CD in the eighties); in addition, new technology has allowed us to remove or improve technical faults with the recordings, for example bad edits, tape drop outs, sibilance etc. Noises that were part of The Beatles’ performances such as breaths, lip noises and squeaky bass drum pedal were left alone. Finally, EQ has been used where appropriate to enhance the sound.

Q: What were the basic instructions given at the beginning of the project?

Allan Rouse: There were no instructions given at the beginning of the project. Once the team had decided how we were going to approach the project, EMI and Apple Corps Ltd. were consulted for their approval.

Q: What has been the toughest technological challenge facing the remastering of the Beatles recordings?

Allan Rouse: Recognising that it impossible to achieve most of the changes which are possible when re-mixing and not to want to try, regardless of the technology that is available today.

Q: How were the new recordings evaluated by Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia?

Allan Rouse: Once the team was satisfied, CDs were provided to Apple Corps Ltd. for their approval.

Q: Which are the most challenging: the early recordings because of their age or the later ones because of their complexity?

Allan Rouse: No album or track was more challenging than another, but the treatment to them changed accordingly, along with the changes in The Beatles’ music and the way in which they were recorded, all of which presented different issues. This is the reason that the work was done chronologically, allowing the team to progress with The Beatles’ sound.

Q: Which recordings -- the mono or stereo recordings -- lend themselves to better remastering?

Allan Rouse: By virtue of the fact that a mono mix has all the elements layered on top of each other it makes it very difficult to make EQ changes without interfering with things you may not wish to. But because of this it also disguises some of the technical problems that were more evident in the stereos, so less work had to be done in this regard. The opposite is true of the stereos, in that because of the separation it was possible to make small EQ improvements where vocals, for example, appear on one side without seriously interfering with the instrumentation. This greater space between instruments and vocals, though, permitted more of the technical issues to be audible; subsequently more time was spent dealing with those than in the monos.

Q: Have the original multitrack masters been transferred to computer to clean up the tape hiss?

Allan Rouse: No. Removing tape hiss from the mono and stereo re-masters was rarely attempted and when it was, it was used subtly and only to reduce the level of the noise, not to remove it. Less than 1% of the catalogue was treated.

Q: Have the pan problems from the original stereo mixes been fixed?

Allan Rouse: This can only be achieved when mixing from the multi-tracks.

Q: How are the new mono mixes being created?

Allan Rouse: New mono mixes have not been created.

Q: How does what's being done for this project differ from how the songs are being handled for "LOVE" and "The Beatles: Rock Band"?

Allan Rouse: Both “LOVE” and “The Beatles: Rock Band” were created by using the 2 track, 4 track and 8 track master tapes. In the case of “Rock Band,” to recreate the original stereo mixes but enabling the track separation that such a game demands. “LOVE” was not only a re-mix to both surround and stereo, it was also a creation that combined instrumentation and vocals from one title and added them to another, providing unique material. The re-masters are the original Sixties mono and stereo mixes created by George Martin, Norman Smith, Geoff Emerick, Ken Scott, Phil McDonald, Glyn Johns and The Beatles.

Q: Is there a general assumption that can be applied to the remastered CDs (e.g. more bass, less noise) or did each track have to be dealt with individually?

Allan Rouse: Each track was dealt with individually. Whilst bass may be one of the differences, so too are other frequencies, which were used to enhance and in some cases reduce. A small proportion of the tracks were not EQ’d at all as the improved transfers to digital had provided a sound that the engineers felt could not be improved upon. Many more had very little EQ applied and some a bit more, but at all times with the utmost consideration for each song.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m8d5-SPECIAL-Engineer-Allan-Rouse-...

Ну вот, ценная порция информации: панорама осталась неизмененной, следовательно, голос так и будет в одном канале, а инструменты - в другом. Рыдайте, ожидающие ремикса!

Начал.
Но может и не так печально будет, послушаем

2dannymass:

>Ну вот, ценная порция информации: панорама осталась
>неизмененной, следовательно, голос так и будет
>в одном канале, а инструменты - в другом. Рыдайте,
>ожидающие ремикса!
А в каком месте текста об этом говориться?

2Jude:

>А в каком месте текста об этом говориться?

Q: Have the pan problems from the original stereo mixes been fixed?

Allan Rouse: This can only be achieved when mixing from the multi-tracks.

2saysay:

СРАНЫЙ
>бокс!!!-одного раза хватит... Поэтому,если 09.09.09
>выйдет такая же туфта,то предлагаю поехать в EMI
>и коллективно набить всем рожи!!!)))
>Даёшь хороший звук!!!

Главное, дохтур смог, а спецы из EMI - нет. Так что версии доктора Эббетса с отцентрованным вокалом будут радовать меломанов еще лет 20-30 ;-)))) Дело дохтура живет и побеждает!

2dannymass:

>Ну вот, ценная порция информации: панорама осталась
>неизмененной, следовательно, голос так и будет
>в одном канале, а инструменты - в другом. Рыдайте,
>ожидающие ремикса!

Вообще-то это и так сразу было понятно.

а где продаются или скачиваются эти самые версии доктора Эббетса? )) Я о них только слышал, но самих записей нигде не встречал.

The Beatles Discography Dr Ebbetts - полная Дискография Битлз от Dr.Ebbetts - FLAC

Страна: UK, US
Жанр: Рок
Год выпуска: 2003
Формат: FLAC (tracks)
Размер: 8.29 GB

http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=241559

2Jude:
http://morninggloryseed-blog.blogspot.com/2008/04/links-to-entire-collection.html

вот тут например я качал

Спасибо большое за ссылку.

It was Rouse, along with Abbey Road senior engineer Guy Massey and and assistant Guy Massey...

2Грибушин Сергей Иванович:

>It was Rouse, along with Abbey Road senior engineer
>Guy Massey and and assistant Guy Massey...

и далее - "5.1 surround and stereo mixes for the reissue of "Yellow Submarine" in 1991"

Автор материала, видимо, очень торопился и наделал опечаток.

Q: What has been the toughest technological challenge facing the remastering of the Beatles recordings?

Allan Rouse: Recognising that it impossible to achieve most of the changes which are possible when re-mixing and not to want to try, regardless of the technology that is available today.

Ээ.. Кто как понял это предложение?
Они что сами сожалеют что поленились сделать ремикс и осознают что ремикс бы был куда лучше?

2HE1NZ:

>Ээ.. Кто как понял это предложение?
>Они что сами сожалеют что поленились сделать
>ремикс и осознают что ремикс бы был куда лучше?

Не то, чтобы поленились, просто перед ними задачу такую не ставили. Вот он и сожалеет, что если бы их зарядили делать ремиксы, много косяков можно было бы исправить.

2dannymass:

>Главное, дохтур смог, а спецы из EMI - нет. Так
>что версии доктора Эббетса с отцентрованным вокалом
>будут радовать меломанов еще лет 20-30 ;-))))
>Дело дохтура живет и побеждает!
Да я бы дохтура обнял бы при встрече как брата родного, такое дело человек делает, дохтур forever!!! :)