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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:20:26   
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15) Louder Than Bombs--The Smiths: Another band that made nice albums but even nicer singles. And much like the Cure didn't always bother to put their singles on their albums. It's a British way of doing business, whereas here in America (where I'm paying taxes) our bands have always used the single as the sucker punch to make us buy the whole album. For a British group, they make you buy the single or wait what seems like a very long time to buy the eventual Greatest Hits collection. Then once they break up, it seems as if they never run out of ways to reconfigure the same hits.15) Louder Than Bombs--The Smiths: Another band that made nice albums but even nicer singles. And much like the Cure didn't always bother to put their singles on their albums. It's a British way of doing business, whereas here in America (where I'm paying taxes) our bands have always used the single as the sucker punch to make us buy the whole album. For a British group, they make you buy the single or wait what seems like a very long time to buy the eventual "Greatest Hits" collection. Then once they break up, it seems as if they never run out of ways to reconfigure the same hits.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:20:52   
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14) The Chess Box--Chuck Berry: Years of reissues and deleted collections have made it difficult to figure out which Greatest Hits collection is actually available. Chuck Berry's Golden Decade collections were solid and the Great Twenty-Eight made for a swell Xmas gift. But, alas, you may have to spring for this three-CD box in order to capture enough Berry to make sense of it all. Because they have deemed it so.14) The Chess Box--Chuck Berry: Years of reissues and deleted collections have made it difficult to figure out which "Greatest Hits" collection is actually available. Chuck Berry's Golden Decade collections were solid and the Great Twenty-Eight made for a swell Xmas gift. But, alas, you may have to spring for this three-CD box in order to capture enough Berry to make sense of it all. Because they have deemed it so.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:21:12   
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13) We Sold Our Souls For Rock N' Roll--Black Sabbath: If any one band could be held responsible for both the greatest and worst sludge ever foistered on the rock music community, it would be Black Sabbath. Sab inspired people who never should've taken up musical instruments to do so anyway, and they also inspired many others who might not have had the guts otherwise. They made a glorious noise that often sounds like a band playing at the wrong speed. It is this wrongness that cast a light for millions. And without any intention on their part led to everything from the rise of the moshpit to endless festivals where young people get very dirty and listen to hundreds of bands pay tribute in their own very loud way.13) We Sold Our Souls For Rock N' Roll--Black Sabbath: If any one band could be held responsible for both the greatest and worst sludge ever foistered on the rock music community, it would be Black Sabbath. Sab inspired people who never should've taken up musical instruments to do so anyway, and they also inspired many others who might not have had the guts otherwise. They made a glorious noise that often sounds like a band playing at the wrong speed. It is this "wrongness" that cast a light for millions. And without any intention on their part led to everything from the rise of the moshpit to endless festivals where young people get very dirty and listen to hundreds of bands pay tribute in their own very loud way.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:21:56   
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12) The Very Best Of--Prince: Before he changed his name, before he confused his adoring public with too few and then too many albums, Prince was a go to guy if you wanted a solid hit single. He managed to write cute and clever while never losing his experimental drive. He knew how to get weird without losing the commercial thread. He knew how to walk the line. And he never lost his inner weirdness. But he did lose a good chunk of his audience.12) The Very Best Of--Prince: Before he changed his name, before he confused his adoring public with too few and then too many albums, Prince was a "go to" guy if you wanted a solid hit single. He managed to write cute and clever while never losing his experimental drive. He knew how to get weird without losing the commercial thread. He knew how to walk the line. And he never lost his inner weirdness. But he did lose a good chunk of his audience.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:22:20   
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11) The Very Best Of The Doors (2CD)--The Doors: The Doors with Jim Morrison (the version of the band that everyone cares about) recorded six studio albums. Over the years this has translated into about 35 greatest hits collections, all featuring some variation of the same songs. This 2 CD best of released in 2007, not to be confused with other albums bearing the same name or something close to it, is just as good as the other albums bearing the same name or something close to it. I'm sure at this point no one needs to hear Light My Fire again, but other songs appear quite often as well and therefore must also be important.11) The Very Best Of The Doors (2CD)--The Doors: The Doors with Jim Morrison (the version of the band that everyone cares about) recorded six studio albums. Over the years this has translated into about 35 greatest hits collections, all featuring some variation of the same songs. This 2 CD best of released in 2007, not to be confused with other albums bearing the same name or something close to it, is just as good as the other albums bearing the same name or something close to it. I'm sure at this point no one needs to hear "Light My Fire" again, but other songs appear quite often as well and therefore must also be important.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:23:02   
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10) The Top Ten Hits--Elvis Presley: The Sun Sessions remain his most stunning achievement. But his longevity and the scope of his career deserve as much attention as his initial impact. This dude is majorly famous. And these 38 top ten hits span decades and give you a broad overview despite the fact that nothing from Sun Records, no gospel or blues, little country and many hits are missing. (They didn't go Top Ten!) Even without all that there's still what marketing departments call an embarrassment of riches.10) The Top Ten Hits--Elvis Presley: The Sun Sessions remain his most stunning achievement. But his longevity and the scope of his career deserve as much attention as his initial impact. This dude is majorly famous. And these 38 top ten hits span decades and give you a broad overview despite the fact that nothing from Sun Records, no gospel or blues, little country and many hits are missing. (They didn't go Top Ten!) Even without all that there's still what marketing departments call "an embarrassment of riches."
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:23:37   
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9) Mania--Ramones: Any of the Ramones first four albums would probably serve as a Greatest Hits of sorts, but while the Ramones consistency dropped a bit in their later years, they still managed to slip some fine songs into their catalog while the rest of the world seemingly ignored them. This one-disc collection is truer to their spirit than the 2-CD anthology. The Ramones were about speed and getting it over with, not dragging it out. Odd then that there isn't a 20-minute, 12-track Best of out there.9) Mania--Ramones: Any of the Ramones first four albums would probably serve as a "Greatest Hits" of sorts, but while the Ramones consistency dropped a bit in their later years, they still managed to slip some fine songs into their catalog while the rest of the world seemingly ignored them. This one-disc collection is truer to their spirit than the 2-CD anthology. The Ramones were about speed and getting it over with, not dragging it out. Odd then that there isn't a 20-minute, 12-track "Best of" out there.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:24:05   
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8) Smash Hits--Jimi Hendrix: Hardcore Jimi Hendrix fans need to listen to something else. They need to hear Jimi play long, extended solos in jam sessions and live concerts and they can rightfully marvel at the man's ability to twist six strings into so many directions. But there are those who are just curious, who want maximum impact and don't have hours to spend with a wah-wah pedal jammed between their ears. For those people, there is this album, where you get the poetry, the hits, the hard rock, the blues and the psychedelia in quick, crushed up doses without the long, extended guitar lessons.8) Smash Hits--Jimi Hendrix: Hardcore Jimi Hendrix fans need to listen to something else. They need to hear Jimi play long, extended solos in jam sessions and live concerts and they can rightfully marvel at the man's ability to twist six strings into so many directions. But there are those who are just curious, who want maximum impact and don't have hours to spend with a wah-wah pedal jammed between their ears. For those people, there is this album, where you get the poetry, the hits, the hard rock, the blues and the psychedelia in quick, crushed up doses without the long, extended guitar lessons.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:24:26   
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7) Greatest Hits, Volume 2--Bob Dylan: Maybe it's because I don't ever want to hear Everybody Must Get Stoned, (titled Rainy Day Women, your SS# here) that I've chosen this collection instead of something more obvious. Or maybe it's because as much as I enjoy Isis or anything from Knocked Out Loaded, I don't want it showing up on a Greatest Hits collection. Hardcore devotees enjoy his every burp, but the average person can barely stand his voice. So let's not overextend ourselves and force too much of the man's catalog onto people all at once This double album will do.7) Greatest Hits, Volume 2--Bob Dylan: Maybe it's because I don't ever want to hear "Everybody Must Get Stoned," (titled "Rainy Day Women, your SS# here") that I've chosen this collection instead of something more obvious. Or maybe it's because as much as I enjoy "Isis" or anything from Knocked Out Loaded, I don't want it showing up on a Greatest Hits collection. Hardcore devotees enjoy his every burp, but the average person can barely stand his voice. So let's not overextend ourselves and force too much of the man's catalog onto people all at once This double album will do.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:24:55   
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6) Greatest Hits--Al Green: Call Me and The Belle Album come recommended but here's another gentleman who belongs to the radio. Who doesn't get chills hearing that voice slink up the pole for Let's Stay Together? Usually when you reduce a man's career down to a handful of essential tracks, you're, well, reducing him. Yet, here the effect is the opposite. By reducing Green's multi-decade career into a Reader's Digest Condensed Edition, it actually makes each punch a knockout blow.6) Greatest Hits--Al Green: Call Me and The Belle Album come recommended but here's another gentleman who belongs to the radio. Who doesn't get chills hearing that voice slink up the pole for "Let's Stay Together"? Usually when you reduce a man's career down to a handful of essential tracks, you're, well, reducing him. Yet, here the effect is the opposite. By reducing Green's multi-decade career into a Reader's Digest Condensed Edition, it actually makes each punch a knockout blow.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:25:15   
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5) Decade--Neil Young: Some people said he couldn't sing. Some people said he was too moody, too erratic. Some people think we're going to see the release of his voluminous archives in our lifetime. Some people think they understand the method to the man's madness. Some people think Heart of Gold is a nice song and don't know what the fuss is. Well, this once 3-LP, now 2-CD collection from the mid-70s doesn't assemble every key moment by any stretch, but it gives you a good idea of the man's range. And, no, he can't sing, by any formal definition, but remember those who can't sing, sing rock n' roll!5) Decade--Neil Young: Some people said he couldn't sing. Some people said he was too moody, too erratic. Some people think we're going to see the release of his voluminous archives in our lifetime. Some people think they "understand" the method to the man's madness. Some people think "Heart of Gold" is a nice song and don't know what the fuss is. Well, this once 3-LP, now 2-CD collection from the mid-70s doesn't assemble every key moment by any stretch, but it gives you a good idea of the man's range. And, no, he can't sing, by any "formal" definition, but remember those who can't sing, sing rock n' roll!
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:26:35   
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4) Greatest Hits--Sly And The Family Stone: Yes, Stand and There's A Riot Goin' On are great albums, but Sly was a master of the single. His songs belonged on the radio and to the radio. His ability to distill his ambitions into three and four minute explosions of joy without getting corny or preachy came from his ability to kick his band's butt into overdrive. He went crazy as a result. Or was it the craziness that gave him the results? I think we've got a chicken or the egg theory here.4) Greatest Hits--Sly And The Family Stone: Yes, Stand and There's A Riot Goin' On are great albums, but Sly was a master of the single. His songs belonged on the radio and to the radio. His ability to distill his ambitions into three and four minute explosions of joy without getting corny or preachy came from his ability to kick his band's butt into overdrive. He went crazy as a result. Or was it the craziness that gave him the results? I think we've got a chicken or the egg theory here.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:26:56   
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3) Star Time--James Brown: I don't like to include boxed sets because Greatest Hits serve as an introduction to an artist's work and a four-disc box is more than just a big hello, it's an overbearing, sweaty hug from someone you're meeting for the first time. But Star Time serves as a great overview of a long, deserving career that I'm willing to overlook just how far Brown's tongue gets jammed down my throat. Hey, it's great to see you too! Godfather of Soul! The R&B years, the invention of funk, the angeldust, its mastery, and eventually the slowdown, it's all here.3) Star Time--James Brown: I don't like to include boxed sets because "Greatest Hits" serve as an introduction to an artist's work and a four-disc box is more than just a big hello, it's an overbearing, sweaty hug from someone you're meeting for the first time. But Star Time serves as a great overview of a long, deserving career that I'm willing to overlook just how far Brown's tongue gets jammed down my throat. Hey, it's great to see you too! Godfather of Soul! The R&B years, the invention of funk, the angeldust, its mastery, and eventually the slowdown, it's all here.
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:27:42   
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2) Hot Rocks--The Rolling Stones: The world's oldest rock n' roll band were once the among the greatest and this collection spanning up to 1971 captures enough of the highlights to qualify as a decent, if not definitive, collection. They simply recorded too many top notch tunes and until they get a real boxed set collection together--The Singles Collection is ok, but is paced with A-side then b-side and not as an album--this will have to stand. You can always add More Hot Rocks for the extra-tasty fazed cookies.2) Hot Rocks--The Rolling Stones: The world's oldest rock n' roll band were once the among the greatest and this collection spanning up to 1971 captures enough of the highlights to qualify as a decent, if not definitive, collection. They simply recorded too many top notch tunes and until they get a real boxed set collection together--The Singles Collection is ok, but is paced with A-side then b-side and not as an album--this will have to stand. You can always add More Hot Rocks for the extra-tasty "fazed cookies."
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 31.07.08 16:28:08   
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1) 1--The Beatles: Assembling their #1 hits in one spot is a great move for beginners. Too obvious for most and the group's genius was partly how they turned the album into an artform of its own. They even managed to do this with albums they didn't program, as the US versions didn't start matching their British counterparts until Sgt. Pepper's and yet the American release of Rubber Soul plays just fine. Chances are you can sing the songs on this collection in your sleep. If not, you haven't mastered the art of singing in your sleep. Or you've never owned a radio.1) 1--The Beatles: Assembling their #1 hits in one spot is a great move for beginners. Too obvious for most and the group's genius was partly how they turned the album into an artform of its own. They even managed to do this with albums they didn't program, as the US versions didn't start matching their British counterparts until Sgt. Pepper's and yet the American release of Rubber Soul plays just fine. Chances are you can sing the songs on this collection in your sleep. If not, you haven't mastered the art of singing in your sleep. Or you've never owned a radio.
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Автор: stoned   Дата: 01.08.08 16:31:44   
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Мое внутренее восприятие не очень-то переваривает сборники, поэтому из приведенных 25 компиляций я слышал (или слушаю) только 5. Конечно, здесь сплошь очень громкие имена, и любое из них вы можете "развернуть" (или уже развернули у себя) в БОЛЕЕ ЧЕМ ОДИН альбом-маст-хэв.

24. Eagles - Their Greatest Hit(S <= !)
Отчасти жаль, что я не слушал это в 70-х, не успел. А потому, как обывателю, мне, конечно же, кажется, что более удачным альбомом был бы просто
Eagles - Their Greatest Hit ( <= !)

6. Al Green - Greatest Hits
Если вы не являетесь коллекционером или фаном (а я, например, себя к таковым не причисляю), то, наверное, этой компиляции вам будет достаточно. Могу сказать одно - из 15 композиций НИ ОДНУ нельзя классифицировать как "заполнитель"

3. James Brown - Star Time
А это уже отдельная история. Не быть фаном Джеймса Брауна (хотя бы скромным) достаточно сложно. Не быть коллекционером - проще, поэтому т.н. "студийные/номерные" альбомы вам, вобщем-то, ни к чему, т.к. в массе своей они и выходили уже как бы "сборниками ранее выпущенных синглов".
Что же выбрать? Star Time - отличная и грамотно собранная коллекция. Но если вы фан скромный - то 4 CD, наверное, чересчур. По крайней мере, я очень рекомендую диск 20 All-Time Greatest Hits! - greater than greatest)) Там те же записи, тот же звук, просто - урезанная квинтэссенция

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Ну мы здесь на форуме ничего другого и не ожидали))
Даже не обсуждается. Своего рода табу
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Автор: realife   Дата: 01.08.08 17:00:19   
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2stoned:

>24. Eagles - Their Greatest Hit(S Отчасти жаль, что я не слушал это в 70-х, не
>успел. А потому, как обывателю, мне, конечно же,
>кажется, что более удачным альбомом был бы просто
>Eagles - Their Greatest Hit ( <= !)

заметно, что Вы не слушали этих товарищей кроме той самой песни. тем более что в данной компиляции ее нет (так как сборник вышел за год до появления "калифорнийскоого хита"). поэтому во всем мире эту группу ценят не за одну песню. Эл Грин и Браун не менее знатные фигуры в мире популярной музыки. а то что они не были достаточно известны в нашей стране еще ни о чем не говорит.
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Автор: stoned   Дата: 01.08.08 17:11:54   
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2realife:

>заметно, что Вы не слушали этих товарищей кроме
>той самой песни. тем более что в данной компиляции
>ее нет (так как данный сборник вышел за год до
>появления "калифорнийскоого хита"). поэтому во
>всем мире эту группу ценят не за одну песню.

Странно.. А я этого не заметил ;)
Если быть пунктуальным, то все, что я слушал из Eagles, это 2 альбома - этот сборник и Hotel. Ни горжусь этим, ни сожалею об этом. Отчасти нравится, отчасти нет, но большого интереса СЕГОДНЯ у меня не вызывает. Повторюсь, в 70-е я, возможно, и отреагировал бы иначе. Но время-то все равно идет ;)
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Автор: Воробьёв Александр   Дата: 01.08.08 21:26:00   
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Из сборников (из недавнего) мне понравился - Greatist Hits Элиса Купера, 1974 год, ранние хиты
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Автор: Corvin   Дата: 05.08.08 10:16:21   
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Abbey Road - лучший последний альбомAbbey Road - лучший последний альбом

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BEATLES - FAB FOUR FINALE TOPS BEST LAST ALBUM POLL

THE BEATLES' ABBEY ROAD has been named the Best Final Album in a new online poll.

The Fab Four's last release was voted the best swansong album over the Jimi Hendrix Experience's Electric Ladyland in a weekend (02-03Aug08) poll on Rolling Stone magazine's website.

Voters picked Nirvana's In Utero as the third best last album, ahead of Sublime's Sublime and Pink Moon by Nick Drake.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/fab%20four%20finale%20tops%20best%20last%2...
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