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Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 03. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 29.10.04 11:02:33
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Третья серия. Вновь американская группа - THE SMOKE.Третья серия. Вновь американская группа - THE SMOKE.

6 фактов, из-за которых нужно обязательно послушать эту группу:

1. Основатель группы Майкл Ллойд (на фото справа) подписал свой первый контракт в возрасте 13 лет, а через 10 лет стал вице-президентом MGM Records.
2. Школьный друг Ллойда, Джимми Гринспун, участвовавший в записи дебютного альбома The Smoke, несколько лет спустя образовал группу Three Dog Night.
3. Майкл Ллойд по специальному приглашению Брюса Джонсона (The Beach Boys) участвовал в записи песни "Good Vibrations".
4. Сейчас Ллойд один из самых известных музыкальных продюсеров в мире - у него около 100 золотых и платиновых дисков, несколько Грэмми, Оскаров, Золотых глобусов и т.д.
5. Дебютный альбом 1968 года заслужил репутацию одного из шедевров 1968 года.
6. Альбом "The Smoke" посвящен Стюарту Сатклиффу.

Fogbound
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/f.rar

The daisy - Intermission
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/tdi.rar

Cowboys and indians
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/cai.rar

Gold is the colour of thought
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/gitcot.rar

Umbrella
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/u.rar


P.S. Специально для любителей Толкиена:

The hobbit symphony
https://www.beatles.ru/sounds/ths.rar
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Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 29.10.04 11:06:05   
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All Music Guide: Biography by Bryan ThomasAll Music Guide: Biography by Bryan Thomas

The Smoke was a one-off studio group created by producer/musician Michael Lloyd. Lloyd was previously in an early lineup of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, and is featured on the group's very first two-track recordings, Vol. 1 (he left before they signed to Reprise). Lloyd remained busy with various music projects, and would soon be producing October Country for Epic. A few years earlier, he'd crossed paths with producer Kim Fowley, who signed Lloyd to a publishing deal when the songwriter was only 13. Fowley later introduced Lloyd to entertainment mogul Mike Curb, who was producing "teensploitation" movies at the time. Curb heard examples of Lloyd's musical gifts and decided to give him the opportunity to produce a handful of groups for his Tower imprint and its Sidewalk subsidiary, including one of Lloyd's own groups, the Laughing Wind. This group featured Stan Ayeroff on guitar and Steve Baim on drums, and had issued a Fowley-produced single in 1966 when Lloyd was only 15. Ayeroff and Aims had played with a few other bands as well, including Max Frost & the Troopers.

Curb gave Lloyd free reign of his Hollywood Boulevard Studios for six months. It was during this time that Lloyd, Ayeroff, and Aims recorded an entire album's worth of folky, psychedelic canyon music under the name the Smoke. Lloyd sang lead vocals and played bass and keyboards, while Ayeroff (who co-wrote three of the songs) played guitar and Baim played the drums and percussion. Toward the end of the project, a childhood friend of Lloyd's, Jimmy Greenspoon (they had both been members of the New Dimensions, a surf combo, as well as the British Invasion-inspired Alley Kats and the Rogues), became interested in joining his friend's band. Greenspoon even posed for the album cover photographs, but he never joined (instead, he formed his own group, Three Dog Night). Curb released the Smoke's album on his Sidewalk label, a division of his Hollywood-based Sidewalk Productions company in 1967 (and a subsidiary of the Tower label; this was prior to Curb selling it to the Transcontinental Entertainment Corporation).

Despite encouragement from Tower and a wide release, the album didn't perform as expected. After recording The Smoke album (and briefly traveling on the road with the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band), Ayeroff ventured off to college, and later returned to music. In 1971, he was a founding member of Oingo Boingo, a surrealistic musical theater group who later developed into a rock band. He wrote numerous music books and toured as a guitarist and arranger. Baim continued to write music and poetry, before becoming an architect and builder in Los Angeles. By the fall of 1969, Curb became president of MGM Records and Lloyd (then 20 years old) was named the company's vice president of A&R. Before then, he had continued working with Ayeroff and Baim as the Rubber Band (who, like the Smoke, didn't perform or travel). They released four "songbook" albums filled with cover versions of tunes by Hendrix, the Beatles, and others. Michael Lloyd continued to work in the music industry, becoming one of the most successful American record producers ever. His recordings have earned over 100 gold and platinum awards, several Grammys, Academy Awards, Dove Awards, Golden Globes, and American Music Awards.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:okdjvwrva9ik~T1
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Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 29.10.04 11:10:38   
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The Smoke (Sidewalk/Tower ST 5912, 1968) The Smoke (Sidewalk/Tower ST 5912, 1968)

Tracks:

Cowboys And Indians
Looking Thru The Mirror
Self-Analysis
Gold Is The Colour Of Thought
Hobbit Symphony
Daisy Intermission
Fogbound
Song Thru Perception
Philosophy
Umbrella
Ritual Gipsy Music Opus 1
October Country
Odyssey

Recorded:

Hollywood Boulevard Studios, Los Angeles, California, summer 1968, released: November 1968

Personnel:

Michael Lloyd (vocals, keyboards, guitar, bass, horn and string arrangements),
Stan Ayeroff (guitars),
Steve Baim (drums)

In a Beverly Hills mansion built for Gloria Swanson, a boyish man in his late forties, dressed in white shorts, T-shirt and baseball cap sits in a room adorned with the spoils of a musical career crammed with hits. Platinum, gold and silver discs for records he's produced are visible on the walls of a nearby anteroom, a jukebox sits across the hall. But we're here to talk about one of this man's earlier recordings, as a musician, an almost solo project of which he's rightly proud and one that didn't sell a bean.
Michael Lloyd clearly recalls the day he decided to be in a band. Aged 12, he was surfing in Hawaii in the summer of '62 with schoolfriend and fellow pianist Jimmy Greenspoon. "We were far out from the shore and we heard music coming from the beach. It sounded great. So we paddled in and there were these local guys playing Ventures songs - they were very good - and that started us thinking, We've got to have a band!" Michael took up guitar and thus were born The New Dimensions, a barely pubescent surf combo. When the British invasion turned the local band scene on its ear a couple of years later, Lloyd and his chums became The Alley Kats and then The Rogues.

Lloyd's musical obsession meant he wasn't giving school his full attention, so, in the autumn of 1964, he left Beverly Hills High School and started at the more relaxed Hollywood Professional School. When he deigned to attend classes, he met the Harris brothers, Shaun and Danny, sons of celebrated American classical composer Ray Harris. The trio quickly recognised their common enthusiasm for pop, and, inspired by seeing Jeff Beck and The Yardbirds at a Hollywood party, began recording songs in Michael's bedroom. The party's host, an older guy named Bob Markley, offered to fund recordings in a 2-track studio. In return he asked to join the band as a tambourine player, because it would help him attract girls. Their rudimentary recordings, mostly cover versions, were released locally on an album (recently reissued) as The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band Volume 1. Lloyd left and the group subsequently signed to Reprise, creating three excellent albums that also deserve to be more widely heard. (They later reunited with Lloyd for an album entitled Bob Markley - A Group... It's a long story.)
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Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 29.10.04 11:11:24   
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In the meantime, Michael was introduced to young executive Mike Curb by ubiquitous LA scenester and producer Kim Fowley. Curb handed the precocious producer a number of projects for Tower under names such as The Laughing Wind and The Rubber Band. Epic Records then offered Lloyd the chance to produce a folk group who came to be called October Country.  One afternoon in late 1967 the band assembled at Columbia Records Studios on Sunset. That was my first time in a real studio. It was an 8-track and one of those union places where you couldn't touch a thing. The first thing that happened was that the drummer was so nervous he threw up and ran out! So I ended up playing the drums and then, after everyone left, I replaced all the instruments, overdubbed the strings and sang with the girl in the group. Although it flopped, the October Country album gave Lloyd a taste of what he could achieve with such facilities at his disposal. 'I promoted the fact that I could do it all. Mike Curb had this great studio called Hollywood Boulevard and he let me spend about six months there making an album. It was just me and those two guys. No engineers, no anything.' Thus was born The Smoke. Michael song lead vocals, played bass and keyboards while those two guys were Stan Ayeroff, who co-wrote three of the songs and played guitar, and Steve Baim who played drums. (Jimmy Greenspoon, by this time part of Three Dog Night, appeared in the shots on the sleeve although he didn't play on it.) Lloyd poured everything he'd learnt into the album. It opens with the organ-driven Cowboys And Indians, a song with parallels to Brian Wilson's Heroes And Villains. 'I met Bruce Johnston and he took me to a couple of sessions while Brian was recording Good Vibrations, recalls Lloyd. it was a great experience. Obviously The Beatles and The Beach Boys were a prime motivation. I think I've always been trying to catch up with them. There are overt Beatles references throughout the record, the chorus of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is even quoted in the fade to Fogbound. The song's influence is also clear in Gold Is The Colour Of Thought. Elsewhere, the lush arrangements feature Pepperesque bursts of trumpet, strings, harpsichord and lashings of sweet singing. Including all the foregoing, October Country, the song, makes a spirited reappearance and there are further great pop moments in Umbrella and Odyssey. As a final nod to Lloyd's heroes, the album is dedicated to Stuart Sutcliffe.In the meantime, Michael was introduced to young executive Mike Curb by ubiquitous LA scenester and producer Kim Fowley. Curb handed the precocious producer a number of projects for Tower under names such as The Laughing Wind and The Rubber Band. Epic Records then offered Lloyd the chance to produce a folk group who came to be called October Country. One afternoon in late 1967 the band assembled at Columbia Records Studios on Sunset. "That was my first time in a real studio. It was an 8-track and one of those union places where you couldn't touch a thing. The first thing that happened was that the drummer was so nervous he threw up and ran out! So I ended up playing the drums and then, after everyone left, I replaced all the instruments, overdubbed the strings and sang with the girl in the group." Although it flopped, the October Country album gave Lloyd a taste of what he could achieve with such facilities at his disposal. 'I promoted the fact that I could do it all. Mike Curb had this great studio called Hollywood Boulevard and he let me spend about six months there making an album. It was just me and those two guys. No engineers, no anything.' Thus was born The Smoke. Michael song lead vocals, played bass and keyboards while "those two guys" were Stan Ayeroff, who co-wrote three of the songs and played guitar, and Steve Baim who played drums. (Jimmy Greenspoon, by this time part of Three Dog Night, appeared in the shots on the sleeve although he didn't play on it.) Lloyd poured everything he'd learnt into the album. It opens with the organ-driven Cowboys And Indians, a song with parallels to Brian Wilson's Heroes And Villains. 'I met Bruce Johnston and he took me to a couple of sessions while Brian was recording Good Vibrations," recalls Lloyd. "it was a great experience. Obviously The Beatles and The Beach Boys were a prime motivation. I think I've always been trying to catch up with them." There are overt Beatles references throughout the record, the chorus of Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is even quoted in the fade to Fogbound. The song's influence is also clear in Gold Is The Colour Of Thought. Elsewhere, the lush arrangements feature Pepperesque bursts of trumpet, strings, harpsichord and lashings of sweet singing. Including all the foregoing, October Country, the song, makes a spirited reappearance and there are further great pop moments in Umbrella and Odyssey. As a final nod to Lloyd's heroes, the album is dedicated to Stuart Sutcliffe.

As records by Beatle-obsessed youths of the '60s go, it all remains remarkably fresh, and should certainly delight fans of post-Pet Sounds psych-pop, say Millennium or Sagittarius. Perhaps only Stan's tricksy guitar shop-window, The Hobbit Symphony breaks the mood. Despite encouragement from Tower and a wide release, the album flopped. "I don't know if anybody really knew what to make of it," sighs Lloyd. "We never went on to play live as The Smoke as I'd planned.' Luckily, Lloyd had plenty of youthful confidence in reserve and didn't let failure faze him. "By the time I was 19, I'd already recorded over 10 albums with different bands and different labels, all unsuccessful! But after that my life changed a great deal." At the tender age of 20, Lloyd was appointed vice-president of MGM by Mike Curb and his first production job, Lou Rawls's Natural Man, won a Grammy. After that he turned out hits for teen sensations like The Osmonds and Shaun Cassidy, later producing Belinda Carlisle, Barry Manilow and, most lucratively, the multi-million selling soundtrack to Dirty Dancing. He worked on Pat Boone's recent, bizarre and surprisingly controversial album of orchestrated versions of heavy metal classics, and is in the studio with the Harris brothers hoping to resurrect the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band.

But of all the things he's recorded it's clear Michael Lloyd's very fond of his forgotten classic created almost 30 years ago and is delighted that it's still finding fans. "It was great fun and gave me the opportunity to learn a little something. I'm very grateful for that."

Jim lrvin and Tim Forster
MOJO, January 1998

http://members.rott.chello.nl/cvanderlely/wcpaeb/articles/thesmoke.html
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Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 29.10.04 11:15:28   
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Как уже говорилось выше, диск The Smoke на CD не выходил, но зато вышел вот такой сборник: Как уже говорилось выше, диск "The Smoke" на CD не выходил, но зато вышел вот такой сборник:

October Country / Painted Sky / Little Boy Smiling / She's Been Away / Good to Be Around / I Wish I Was a Fire / Cowboys and Indians / I Just Don't Know / End of the Line / My Girlfriend Is a Witch / Caryle's Theme

Bonus tracks: October Country / Baby What I Mean / Just Don't Know / My Girlfriend Is A Witch / Cowboys and Indians



http://www.cherryred.co.uk/revola/artists/octobercountrycrrev51.htm
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Автор: karp   Дата: 29.10.04 12:31:40   
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Скачал. Слушаю. (С издевкой и саркастической ухмылкой): Особенно заявленное влияние Битлз заметно в The hobbit symphony :-)))) Правда, я пока только только одну эту вещь про хоббита и послушал:-)
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Автор: papan   Дата: 29.10.04 14:06:39   
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Может альбом и шедевром считался в 1968,но по-моему далеко не все песни могли бы этому смелому заявлению соответствовать.Например,Fogbound просто децкий сад какой-то.Всё просто напичкано влияниями разными.Вообще по звуку в основном соответствует тому,что делалось год-два до этого.Окромя последней "проговой".Однако впечатление вцелом положительное.
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Автор: Малиновский Сергей   Дата: 29.10.04 16:34:21   
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Зонтик - ничего выдающегося, имхо. А вот Fogbound мне понравился. Интересна концовка Gold is the colour of thought. Про ковбоев - проходная штучка. Daisy - забавно и довольно приятно. :) А The Hobbit Symphony - добротно! :) В целом, ребята талантливые, имхо...
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Автор: Mr.Moonlight   Дата: 29.10.04 19:54:58   
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Но интерес широкой публики минимальный... Впрочем, наплевать, мне проект Корвина очень нравится - качаю, хоть и сижу на трафике.
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Автор: Андрев   Дата: 29.10.04 21:02:33   
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Привет, не часто встреваю, это от скромности. Однако... The Smoke. Держу в руках CD производства Repertoire 1993 года, на пластинке - альбом 1965 года "...it's Smoke Time" - 12 вещей, плюс куча бонусов - 14 шт. до 1972 года (я как раз родился). Абсолютно адекватный Биг-Бит, вполне сравнимый с the Standells. Господа, надеюсь вы об этом THE SMOKE... Кстати по поводу пластинки THE SMOKE:

"...it's Smoke Time" (1965)+ бонусы:

- My Friend Jack
- Waterfall
- You Can't Catch Me
- High In A Room
- Wake Up Cherylina
- Don't Lead Me On
- We Can Take It
- If The Weather's Sunny
- I Wanna Make It With You
- It's Getting Closer
- It's Just Your Way Of Lovin'
- I Would If I Could But I Can't
Additional Tracks
- Have Some More Tea
- Victor Henry's Cool Book
- Sydney Gill
- It Could Be Wonderful
- Keep A Hold Of of What You've Got
- She's A Liar
- I Am Only Dreaming
- Universal Vargant
- Dreams Of Dreams
- My Birth
- Jack Is Black
- That's What I Want
- Playing With Magic
- My Friend Jack (alternate take)
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Автор: Андрев   Дата: 29.10.04 21:20:54   
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Кстати...обложкаКстати...обложка
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Автор: Андрев   Дата: 29.10.04 21:33:14   
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(Corvinу) Промежду прочим поздний The Smoke yж очень похож на Sweet (именно на Sweet), года эдак 75-76. Разве нет?
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Автор: Dvas Nickolas   Дата: 29.10.04 22:19:36   
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Группа, в целом ничего, но не покидает ощущение незавершенности какой-то. Вещичка Cowboys and Indians - штука классная, но есть одно примечание: развлекает игра "посчитай влияния". Что не умаляет качества музыки.
P.s. Пока из "Неизвестных..." для меня лидирует группа Twinn Conexion.
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Автор: karp   Дата: 30.10.04 00:16:54   
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2Андрев:
>The Smoke. Держу в руках CD производства Repertoire
>1993 года, на пластинке - альбом 1965 года "...it's
>Smoke Time"
>Господа, надеюсь вы об этом THE SMOKE...
Насколько понимаю - нет.
"...it's Smoke Time" - английский The Smoke.
А обсуждаемый Smoke - американский.
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Автор: Mr.Moonlight   Дата: 30.10.04 09:48:14   
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The Smoke = Дымок

Хорошая рифма :)))
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Автор: Mae Eskie   Дата: 30.10.04 19:58:21   
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Вот это тема
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Автор: Андрев   Дата: 31.10.04 22:22:56   
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Лихо! В таком случае, для экономии виртуального пространства, предлагаю добавить британский The Smoke, дабы не потерять их из вида (и добавить в список обзора). Как я понимаю, данная концепция не противоречит названию рубрики и поддерживает идею. Как минимум, в случае (например) с The Charlatans может произойти похожая путаница.
2Corvin, может быть имеет смысл в продолжение темы обсудить группы: The Grassroots, Paul Revere & The Raiders и замечательных Vanity Fare...
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Автор: karp   Дата: 31.10.04 22:35:33   
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2Андрев:
>предлагаю добавить британский The Smoke
>The Grassroots, Paul Revere & The Raiders и замечательных
>Vanity Fare...
Позволю себе снова предположить (точнее гарантировать) ответ Corvin'а:
"кто ж мешает-то? Создавайте. "Неизвестные 60-е. Часть <такая-то>."

PS
А про английский The Smoke лучше отдельную тему начать. Просто назвать The Smoke(UK)
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Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 01.11.04 11:07:26   
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>2Corvin, может быть имеет смысл в продолжение
>темы обсудить группы: The Grassroots, Paul Revere
>& The Raiders и замечательных Vanity Fare...

Спасибо за предложенные кандидатуры! Кстати о Paul Revere & The Raiders уже тема есть: https://www.beatles.ru/postman/forum_messages.asp?msg_id=7989
А вы знаете, что...  
Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Corvin   Дата: 09.11.04 18:40:15   
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Диск The Smoke целиком выложен на FTP (спасибо Free As A Bird!):

ftp://212.193.33.98/media/The%20Smoke%20(US)/The%20Smoke%20(1968)/
Здорово!  
Re: Неизвестные 60-е. Часть 3. Группа The Smoke (US)
Автор: Бека   Дата: 20.03.05 20:05:26   
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Я влюбился в песню Umbrella. Знакомство со Smoke я начал именно с этой песни. Плюю на трафик, завтра скачаю весь альбом!
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