Роли Ринго в кино.

Насколько я помню тема которую я хочу затронуть почти не обсуждалась на форуме, разве что упоминалась в других темах.
Все мы знаем, что Ринго довольно много снимался в кино, хотя зачастую это и не были главные роли. Как вы относитесь к Ринго как к актеру, какие фильмы сего участием вам нравятся ?

Я очень мало видела... Пресловутую "Княжну Дейзи", собственно, и всё. Так что мне сложно судить.
Но сказать могу одно: в битловсих фильмах он единственный пытается играть не себя... Хотя не скажу, чтоб у него это особенно выходило ;)
А вот интересно, кто что скажет о Caveman'е. Правда ли шедевр?

Caveman - совсем неплох.
Но мне больше нравится промо фильм Ринго к Stop And Smell The Roses с Барбарой и Полом.

Согласен с тобой, Ая. В битловских фильмах Ринго действительно был самым лучшим актёром. Кстати, в Help! и в Yellow Submarine Ринго предстаёт перед нами как главный герой, как лидер группы! Вам так не кажется?

Насчёт лидера не знаю, но интрига крутится вокруг него, пока Джон и Пол усиленно маячат в кадре, а Джордж прячется на заднем плане, изредка появляясь, чтобы Всем Показать, Кто Тут Самый красивый ;)
Но вот что примечательно: даже в ММТ именно *игровые* моменты -- в основном связаны с Ринго. (Не считая сцены с Джоном-официантом, конечно.) И в LIB он, в общем-то, единственный, кто действительно спокойно реагирует на камеру, не считая, разве что, Билли Престона и Heather, но эти двое просто откровенно ловят кайф от ситуации ;)

Да, согласен с LL, что промо фильм Ринго к Stop And Smell The Roses с Барбарой и Полом очень хорош.
А нет ли этого у кого-нибудь в цифре?
У меня есть фильм на DVD "THAT'LL BE THE DAY", могу кому-нибудь записать и на видео.

Я тут как-то по-немецки смотрел фильм комедийный типа "миллион лет до нашей эры",дебилизм полный,но Ринго хорош!

Из всего, что попалось мне на глаза с участием Ринго, это незабываемый фильм "The Magic Christian". Просто отличное кино!!! Нет слов... Если кто знает, где его можно у нас взять (не на DVD) или если у кого-нибудь он есть на видео...

Let me know!!! СПАСИБО!

Даже если бы Ринго не был битлом, он был бы заметным актером и музыкантом. Просто сейчас мы бы о нем не так мого занли. Хотя это было бы обидно!

Caveman по-немецки :)))))) Это уже полный анекдот!!! Небось, переводить трудно было :))))))

Трицератопс Рокс***Да,было давольно прикольно!Хорошо что немецкий я учил в школе и институте.Немцы ведь все фильмы дублируют.

Ринго здорово играл как в фильмах с The Beatles:))). Еще была классная роль папы Римского в фильме про Ференса Листа. Кажется назывался фильм Listomanija.

Caveman - сильно!!! :)
А вообще, ИМХО, у Ринго есть актерский талант, поэтому он и в битловских фильмах везде на первых планах.

Я тоже очень люблю Caveman, хотя более интересный фильм -это конечно Magic Christian. То, что Питер Селлерс взял в напарники Ринго уже говорит о том, что Ричи как актер чего-либо стоит. Жаль, что фильм у меня не с самым хорошим переводом да и кассета уже старенькая.
Остальные фильмы с Ринго ( не все конечно) я видела только по одному разу и давольно давно, поэтому мне сложно о них сейчас сказать что- то конкретное.

• Imagine: John Lennon (1988)
• Water (1986)
• Candy (1968)
• Help! (1965)
• A Hard Day's Night (1964)
• What's Happening! The Beatles in the U.S.A.
• Walking After Midnight
• The Magic Christian
• Let It Be
• Caveman
• The Last Waltz
• Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
• Sextette
• Give My Regards to Broad Street
• Lisztomania
• 200 Motels
• The Concert For Bangla Desh
• Blindman
• That'll Be the Day
• The Kids Are Alright
• Let It Be
• Getting Even With Dad (1994)
• Curly Sue (1991)
• The Concert For Bangla Desh
• Give My Regards to Broad Street
• The Last Waltz

Ринго удалось увидеть только в сериале "Княжна Дейзи" (не считая фильмов с "Битлз"). Как всегда, он прелесть!!!!! А вот Пола вне "Битлз" в кино даже и не знаю где увидеть..... Да и было ли такое?

Пол снял собственный фильм GIVE MY REGARDS TO BROAD STREET. Это фильм 84 года. Хотя критики фильм не оценили, фильм очень приятный. В фильм , кстати, снимались и Линда, ринго и Барбара Бах.
Этот филь не так сложно найти, как мне кажется.С фильмами Ринго гораздо сложнее.

Хуже всего с фильмами Джорджа... Эх... :(

Ринго и Барбара открывают вторую часть видеоантологии Queen 1987 года. Там же можно встретить и Пола, который, привычно ковыряясь в ухе, скептически замечает: King Mercury?

Ringo главный и в Magical Mystery Tour!

Довольно интересное и веселое радио интервью, взятое у Ринго мультяшными персонажами Джимом , Майком и Джоном, и последующий монолог Ринго о фильме Caveman:
JIM: Hey John, "From Me to You," here's the star of our top Dinosaur film, its Ringo Starr!
JOHN: (jaw drops) Ringo here? I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy (faints)
RINGO: I get that all the time.
MIKE: People fainting when you talk about the Beatles?
RINGO: No, they faint when I talk about CAVEMAN.
#1 CAVEMAN!
by Ringo Starr

I know what people think... this movie stinks worse than that big dinosaur poop I fall into. Its true, but for some reason I was drawn to a story about an outcast who can't seem to find a group where he belongs... I mean, John and Paul could both write and sing and play, and George could kinda write, plus he was all buddy buddy with Clapton, and here's poor Ringo what am I gonna do now? I mean heck, whos gonna wanna watch a show of me just playin' drums and doin backup vocals with nobody else singin? Noone thats who... I've tried. I mean come on, CAVEMAN has got to be better than GIVE MY REGARDS TO BROAD STREET, and its a lot better than that movie George produced SHANGHAI SURPRISE. And all John did was film him and Yoko taking off their clothes... who wants to see that? Well thanks for listening, and thank you Wonder Show... you've taken me back to wonderful times... just four cavemen who really loved each other, thats all we were. GOOD NIGHT WONDER SHOW!!!! I'M THE GREATEST!!!

Reviewed by Glenn Erickson

More than just a misfire, The Magic Christian is perhaps the main film responsible for killing off all hope for the upscale black comedy, a trend which began with the wonderfully baroque The Loved One just a few years earlier. With a lack of point or wit that in comparison makes his Candy seem like Some Like it Hot, gonzo writer Terry Southern exercises his love of absurdity with a passel of top British names and behind-the-screen talent. But, despite the fact that many find it absolutely hilarious, it all just sits there, and we're forced to appreciate what scraps of inspiration that can be found in the wreckage. By comparison, the same talent's out-of-control Casino Royale was an epic: at least dumb spoof knew how to be amusingly grandiose.


Synopsis:


Millionaire Guy Grand (Peter Sellers) lives in luxury on the Thames, while mismanaging his many obsolete companies. One day, he adopts a bum in the park (Ringo Starr) whom he dubs Youngman Grand, Esquire. Together they go on a grouse hunt, a train ride, etc., while Guy indulges his extreme tastes and penchant for excess. Finally, with the rest of the trendy, meaningless society set, they book passage on the maiden voyage of The Magic Christian, a colossal luxury liner that nobody has seen.

It wouldn't be fair or accurate, but one is tempted to relate the collapse of the British film industry with The Magic Christian, a film which must have turned audiences out feeling alienated and cheated. With its pedigree of talent, one would think there'd be a movie there, but what we get are are series of blackout skits that were probably sketched as text but improvised free-form on the set. Terry Southern has a strong reputation as a conceptual satirist, but his film work at this time looks like nothing less than talent squandered. If he had anything relevant to say about the decadence of society, it's not here.

The Magic Christian is less than plotless. Peter Sellers can be sublime, but when he just puts his manic energy into pulling faces and accents, as he does here, he's a bore. Just one scene into the film, we recognize Guy Grand as a class-A Ass, and from then on there is no development of character or theme whatsoever, just a reiteration of the proposition that the rich are corrupt, that business is corrupt, that England and the world are decadent and valueless.

Guy and Youngman ruin a grouse shoot by calling in anti-aircraft cannons to blast down the luckless birds. Outraging the stuffy shotgun-toting rural landholders is the only result, but we realize that it's all a repeat gag from Casino Royale.

A board meeting held in Guy's train starts with a pep talk and ends with everyone (including a perfectly phlegmatic but wasted Dennis Price (Kind Hearts and Coronets) being summarily fired. But not before a new business idea is presented with an audio-visual assist from a cartoon by Richard Williams, of a gigantic luxury car with a back seat designed for a dozen huge-breasted women. Guy starts out enthusiastic on the car, but then dumps the idea.

Guy and Youngman bribe the Oxford rowing team, with the collusion of their coach (star-billed Richard Attenborough, on-screen for maybe five shots). In the middle of the race, the students ram the opposing boat and sink it.

Most of these gags center on Guy bribing people to do outrageous things, an idea that immediately runs dry. The apparent point is that modern consumer society is corrupt, and that the public gets what it deserves. Unfortunately, as Southern points his finger at the audience while showing us one unfunny scene after another, we sooner arrive at the conclusion that we are watching a movie made by spoiled filmmakers who are themselves collecting huge salaries, while sneering at a public foolish enough to spend money to see their work. At the end, Guy induces a bunch of bowler-hatted gentlemen to leap into a vat full of blood, urine and animal manure, by throwing a fortune in pound notes into the mix. The soundtrack dutifully plays Paul McCartney's Come and Get It by Badfinger. What sport.

True satire has long since been absorbed and co-opted by society. Some of the old Mad Magazine's pure barbs now read like the ancient wisdom of a lost civilization. Most every stand-up comedian is dirtier than Lenny Bruce, but none even approach his sincerity or truthfulness. There are plenty of comedies with dark and cynical outlooks, even commercial fluff, that nevertheless have a point to make. The Magic Christian is a pretender that thinks it's the Real McCoy.

The show can be seen as the hand-off film between the original Goon Squad (Spike Milligan appears in a small role) and the upcoming Monty Python tomfoolery, as a young John Cleese and Graham Chapman appear and also had a hand in some re-writing. But both Goons and Pythons were first and foremost undeniably funny, with a reverent & infectious belief in silliness for its own sake. Like too much of Terry Southern's work, The Magic Christian is empty and pretentious, a string of cameo appearances in pointless scenes. Theater of the Absurd goes in its own direction, and a superior show like The Bed-Sitting Room (made the same year) attracted a certain admiration while playing to empty houses, but The Magic Christian has about it the smell of total commercial sellout.

As with Candy, I've heard The Magic Christian referenced by individuals as the funniest movie they ever saw. It must have been a good date, or perhaps the viewer was immature, as was Savant when he was a teenager and thought things like The Road to Hong Kong, Sergeants Three, and Laugh-In were fall-down funny. A typical gag has Sellers buying a hot dog from a vendor through the window of his private train, as it waits at a station. The train is leaving, and Sellers can't make change, so they're shouting back and forth. This would seem to be a typical Goon Show-type situation, but it doesn't go anywhere - Sellers switches between hysteria and unconcern, and we're more interested in a physical payoff to the gag (it's a real train, really moving) that doesn't materialize. Once again, the satire is invisible. The train passengers are upperclass twits several patronizing levels removed from humanity. Their train is capable of going anywhere ("We're in the United States now."). The thoughtlessness of the scene is best expressed in the fact that Ringo Starr, who accompanies Sellers everywere, just sits and does nothing, as if using the film to make a, "They're gonna put me in the movies" statement.

(mild spoiler)

The main setpiece supposedly puts every important personage in Britain on a luxury cruise in a giant futuristic boat clearly meant to represent the future of the country. Naturally the whole thing is a fraud, and the passengers are fools being hoodwinked for thousands of pounds each. Just as in Casino Royale, the big-time cameos are trotted out, for one last thrill before the show collapses from its own weight. Christopher Lee wanders in as 'the ship's vampire', a gag repeated three times for no purpose. An impressive shot of him stalking a corridor has some design value, but his makeup is inadequate and he doesn't seem to be very intense as he bites a passenger - it's really a flaky echo of the Frankenstein Monster that shows up at the end of Casino Royale.

There isn't much shocking about the film except a mild crudity that only makes the film seem less imaginative. The upperclass villains use racial slurs, and Leonard Frey plays a character called 'Laurence Faggot'. Lawrence Harvey does a Shakespearean striptease that shows effort but falls flat for lack of any point beyond itself. Even Mel Brooks had an underlying sense of despair for the devaluation of entertainment, in his bad-taste Springtime for Hitler musical number.

The most-oft published photo from The Magic Christian shows beautiful Raquel Welch in ornate Conan-like fantasy garb as the Priestess of the Whip, an S&M slave driver who flogs an entire gallery of topless oarswomen. From a production point of view, it's the only truly eye-catching 30 seconds of the film, but like the Dracula gag, becomes frustrating when it amounts to nothing more. It's easily topped by a minutes' worth of footage at the ship's bar, where a silent Roman Polanski is serenaded by an eerily familiar female impersonator, who turns out to be Yul Brynner. Brynner's voice is dubbed for the song (I hope) but the little scene-let is truly jolting. It's a reason to see the film for more than just its overall curiosity value.


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In parting, it needs to be stressed that through this criticism of Terry Southern it must be remembered that he's still the credited writer of the superlative Doctor Strangelove, the most successful black comedy of them all.

Artisan's disc of The Magic Christian is an okay package. The transfer is reasonable throughout, looking much better than the edited 16mm prints Savant used to see on television. But the marketers clearly didn't know what to make of the film. Miscreant comedy satirists Joe McGrath and Terry Southern show up nowhere on the packaging, but the long list of cameos does, with John Cleese getting first mention and the ad copy trying to insinuate that this is a Monty Python-related production.

It's in 2.0 Dolby Surround, but Savant noticed no separation in the audio. An MGM-like diagram proudly says the film is 'Presented in the original 1:33 aspect ratio in which the film was shot'. This shows ignorance that rivals Guy Grand. In theaters, the 1969 film's aspect ratio would vary between 1:66 and 1:85, depending on where it was screened. Yes, on the camera negative, the image was 1:37, but aspect ratios are descriptions of theatrical presentation, not how the film was exposed. On my widescreen TV, the show had lots of dead space in 1:37, and looked fine when cropped off to 1:78.

If the IMDB speaks the truth, this release of The Magic Christian is nine minutes longer than some editions. I don't know of the film ever being cut ... ?
On a scale of Excellent, Good, Fair, and Poor, The Magic Christian rates:
Movie: Fair
Video: Good
Sound: Good
Supplements: none
Packaging: Keep case
Reviewed: February 1, 2003

Нашла сайт о ролях Ринго в кино. Пока там далеко не все фильмы, но есть интересная информация и фото.http://sentstarr.tripod.com/actnaturally/

А где в Москве можно купить фильмы с его участием?А насчёт Пола я видел фильм про него и Линду, но играли не они...

Неплохо он сыграл пещерного человека, не помню как фильм назывался, правда...

Так и назывался - "Пещерный человек" (Caveman - не намек ли на далекое прошлое Битлз?)

ИЗ намеков на Битлз в фильме Пещерный человек я бы назвала еще 2
Действие фильма начинается 9 октября, а Ринго в импровизированном концерте играет на ударных.

Барбара Бах в кино
http://www.archivodefamosas.com/ficha_famosas.php?id_famosa=414

Большая аналитическая статья Mr. Kite «Работы Ринго Старра в кино» имеется в #4 журнала «Эплоко» Уральского Битлз-клуба (декабрь 2003).

The Magic Christian

Blindman
Показали по 5 каналу в пятницу. Решил посмотреть прежде всего из-за участия Ринго. Полное разочарование, все на низком уровне, слабый сюжет, слабый кастинг, слабая игра актеров, да и Ринго не впечатлил (справедливости ради, играть ему там было нечего).

Я тоже посмотрел Blindman,но на Ринго cмотрел с удовольствием,так как по нашему ТВ просто так включить и увидеть на экране битла не очень просто,согласитесь(к тому же через десять минут,после того как я фильм начал смотреть, его героя убили...).А после этого был фильм,гле продюссером был Джордж Харрисон,а на следующий день в очередном фильме про Бонда на 5-м канале играла Барбара Бах(какя он красивая была тогда!!),ну ,короче,какая-то битловская двухдневка получилась!Почаще бы так...

Любимый фильм с участием Ринго:

Там же...