Lennon. Невероятная магнитофонная пленка. Потрясающие результаты исследований

и отсюда

И вряд ли смена декораций происходила в течение ОДНОГО концерта

Упс.. Опять не выходит...То они на фоне кустиков, то на фоне кирпичной стены. И ни одной фотки в зале, в котором делали ту запись на катушки. Мне кажется, что "кустики" и "стена" были в разные дни. Нет? Или выходов в этот день у группы было больше, чем 2?

И на фотках в статье фото, где было место дневного выступления это, собственно, территория при церкви с кладбищем, которое находится аж через улицу от того зала со сценой, где произошла встреча. Вот, блин, ребус...

"У кладбища направо пылил пустырь,
А за ним голубела река.
Ты сказал мне: "Ну что ж, иди в монастырь
Или замуж за дурака...

(С)

2okappi:

>Вот, блин, ребус...

Нет, ребус отсутствует. К сожалению, Expert немножко неправ, а именно на 14 дней.
См. http://www.miklepuzzle.narod.ru/photo23.html
То, что это разные дни, видно и по одежде ребят и по составу. 22 июня Айвэн Воган "зажигал", а 7 июля он не выступал ни днем, ни вечером. Лен Гэрри принимал участие в концерте 6 июля, а 22 июня его не было. Фотографий Quarrymen 6 июля вечером внутри церкви, к сожалению, нет вообще.

6 июля 1957 года

22 июня 1957 года

2Mikle:

Ок.
Только Лен Гэрри начал играть в группе на басу после ухода Айвэна Воэна (так правильнее).
Bill Smith on the tea-chest bass. Smith was later replaced by Ivan Vaughan, then Nigel Whalley, and finally Len Garry.

И ни ни одной фотографии его нет. На басу везде играет Лен Гэрри - высокий, с короткой стрижкой, в клетчатой рубашке.

На фото Воэн между Шоттоном и Гэрри.

Не следует забывать и вот эту песенку:

Кстати про исполнение Би-Боп-А-Лу-Лы Пол ничего не говорит:


The first time Sir Paul heard The Quarrymen, what were they playing?

"They had a repertoire of kind of folksy sort of bluesy things mixed with early rock 'n' roll. And John and the band were playing a thing called Come Go With Me, which was a record for a group called the Del Vikings. It was an early rock 'n' roll record. But John obviously didn't have the record, and he probably heard it a few times on radio. And being so musical, he just picked it up. And so he was doing a version of it. But what impressed me was even though he didn't know the words, he would make 'em up and he's steal words from sort of blues songs. So instead of the real words, which I don't know, but he was singing 'Come go with me down to the penitentiary,' which was more off Big Bill Broonzy or somebody, you know. But I thought, you know, that's inventive. That's ingenuous. So I warmed to him immediately hearing that.

"Well, they were doing two sets. There was one in the afternoon when I first of all saw them, which was outdoors, and then there was to be one in the evening. And meantime, they had all this time to fill, so they went into the village hall where the evening gig was to be. And they were sitting around, and with all this time on their hands, John, who was one and a half years older than me, had got hold of some beer from somewhere and was having a little drink. And we were sitting around and just playing various songs. And even though I was left-handed, I kind of learned to turn the guitar upside-down and just about play songs 'cause my friends wouldn't let me retune their guitars, obviously. Too inconvenient for them. So I had to learn this left-handed method. So I turned the guitar around--I think it was his guitar--and I played a song, an early Eddie Cochran song, which was called Twenty Flight Rock.

2Expert:

>...И ни ни одной фотографии его нет...

У меня тоже были подобные сомнения, хотя комментарии к этому фото (22.06.57) такие -
left to right:
Colin Hanton - drums
Eric Griffiths - guitar
John Lennon - vocal, guitar
Ivan Vaughan - tea-chest bass
Pete Shotton - washboard
Rod Davis - banjo
но потом решил, что на картине Кэша Айвэн выглядит довольно добрым молодцом и почему бы это не быть ему.

2Кот Баюн:

>...Vernon Dalhart...
>...и я не уверен, что его запись - первая. Надо проверять.

PUTTING ON THE STYLE
(George P. Wright / Norman Cazden)

Vernon Dalhart - 1925
Rod McKuen - 1956
Lonnie Donegan - 1957
Vipers Skiffle Group - 1957
Chad Mitchell Trio - 1961
Travellers 3 - 1963
Faraway Folk - 1970
The Fleadh Cowboys - 1997

Vernon Dalhart. Вариант текста

Eighteen and eighty-four, June the twenty-first
Thought I'd write a poem, if I could a verse
Sitting by the window something made me smile
I saw a fellow passing, putting on the style

Putting on the agony, putting on the style
What the stylish people are a-doing all the while
When I look around me I very often smile
To see so many people putting on the style

Young man and his true love a-going to see the scenes
Looking mostly like a bunch of garden greens
Gingerbread and candy eating all the while
Going to see the show, boys, putting on the style

Putting on the agony, putting on the style
What the stylish people are a-doing all the while
When I look around me I very often smile
To see so many people putting on the style

Young man in the the carriage, going like mad
Pair of spanking horses he borrowed from his dad
Cracked his whip so suddenly he made the ladies smile
Oh, isn't he a-going it, putting on the style

Young man in the dramshop, smokes the dirty pipe
Looking like a pumpkin only partly ripe
Drinks, swears, and gambles, thinking all the while
That this is something equal to putting on the style

Preacher in the pulpit shouts with all his might
"Glory Hallelujah!" with the people in a fright
Thinking of pretences come out on double file
But the preacher's only putting on the style

Sweet sixteen at meetin', going to see the boys,
She turns her head and sniggers at every little noise
She turns her head on this side, and then on that a while
Oh, isn't she a swell, boys, putting on the style

Chad Mitchell Trio. Вариант текста

Young man in a carriage, driving like he's mad
With a team of horses, he's borrowed from his dad
He cracks his whip so lively, just to see his lady's smile
But she knows he's only putting on the style

Putting on the agony, putting on the style
That's what all the young folks are doing all the while
And as I look around me, I'm very apt to smile
To see so many people putting on the style

Sweet sixteen, she goes to church, just to see the boys
She laughs and she giggles at every little noise
She turns this way a little, she turns that way a while
But everybody knows she's only putting on the style

Young man in a restaurant smokes a dirty pipe
Looking like a pumpkin that's only halfway ripe
Smoking, drinking, chewing, and thinking all the way
There is nothing equal to putting on the style

Preacher in the pulpit shouting with all his might
Glory Hallelujah, puts the people in a fright
You might think that Satan's coming up the aisle
But it's only preacher putting on the style

Young man just back from college makes a big display
With a great big jawbreak that he can hardly say
It can't be found in Webster, and won't be for a while
But everybody knows he's only putting on the style

Doctor comes to see you, just to hold your hand
Feeds you pills and medicines and tells you you'll feel grand
And all the times he's talking, he wears a great big smile
Thinks he'll make a lot of money putting on the style

Lonnie Donegan. Вариант текста

Sweet sixteen goes to church just to see the boys
Laughs and screams and giggles at every little noise
Turns her face a little, and turns her head awhile
But everybody knows she's only putting on the style

She's putting on the agony, putting on the style
That's what all the young folks are doing all the while
And as I look around me I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks putting on the style

Well the young man in the hot rod car, driving like he's mad
In a pair of yellow gloves he's borrowed from his dad
He makes it roar so lively just to make his girlfriend smile
But she knows he's only putting on the style

He's putting on the agony, putting on the style
That's what all the young folks are doing all the while
And as I look around me I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks putting on the style

Preacher in the pulpit, roars with all his might
Sings Glory Hallelujah, puts the folks all in a fright
Now you might think it's Satan coming down the aisle
But it's only our poor preacher boys putting on the style

Putting on the agony, putting on the style
That's what all the young folks are doing all the while
And as I look around me I sometimes have to smile
Seeing all the young folks putting on the style

2Кот Баюн:

>Вы скопипастили...

Ну да, так. Есть ощущение, что я что-то у кого-то украл. А всего-то хотелось внести некоторую возможную ясность. Хорошо, будем рыть дальше. Если что-то накопаете, дайте знать.

Mikle:

>Католицизм смотрится демократичней православия.

Католицизм здень ни причём. А вообще материал интересный!

2Кот Баюн:
***и я не уверен, что его запись - первая. Надо проверять.***

по "Puttin'On the Style": попробовал - поиск ничего не дал. Песня "засекреченная" какая-то.
Нашёл пока вторичную инфу:

http://books.google.ru/books...wCDgU#v=onepage&q=putting%20on%20the%20style%20song&f=false

Дальше копаем:

Указаны авторы песни - George P. Wright/Norman Cazden
Норман родился в 1914 году. Следовательно, в 1925-26 ему было всего 11-12 лет.

Скорее всего, он трансформировал (переаранжировал?) "Puttin' On the Style уже позднее, в пятидесятые.
Тут я уже писал про это:
https://www.beatles.ru/postman/forum_messages.asp?msg_id=13743&cpage=9#725525

George P. Wright - тоже, скорее всего, слова придумал. (?) когда, пока не понял...

From Ozark Folksongs, Randolph
Collected from Doney Hammontree, Ark, 1941
Copyrighted 1875; recorded by Dalhart and Houchins.
note: Hammontree said it was in all the popular songbooks in the late 1890s RG

http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiPUTONST2;ttPUTONST2.html

Приписка recorded by Dalhart and Houchins говорит о том, что её записывал и Kenneth Houchins.